Who's Voting For Whom In The Next Elections ?

[Truther 1,579]

I'm I supposed to believe something you say, because you say it ?

 

Bearing in mind you think the Jews run the conservatives and Ukip

If it were true then the ukip/con councillor should be strung up with the rest of them.

 

What don't you believe? the tory who defected gave an interview in the local paper, and the meeting about the abuse was all over the f***ing TV, all councillors from all parties admitted knowing the truth for 6 years and doing f**k all about it, your beloved ukip wankers are as guilty as the labour scum.

 

What really makes me laugh is anybody thinking we live in a democracy, you can only vote for anyone sanctioned by the system, the system is run largely by the fake jews, no matter which party gets in power the finances are controlled by these people FACT. Ill not waste my time explaining it all to you, it will fall on deaf ears, just keep playing their silly f***ing game and working for scum.

[WILF 46,640]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29691283

 

Don't get above your station !!!!.......yet more politics of envy !!!

 

And what would they do with all this money ?.......waste it, like they have done with all the rest

[nothernlite 18,077]

If any of you think that any politician is going to put you before themselves. Then quite frankly you should not be allowed to vote. In every politicians life there are three people who are impotent to them. Me, Myself and I. Not necessarily in that order. I was born in a labour heartland, where you could put a donkey in for labour and it would win, and to be honest they often did. I did not agree with the socialist doctrine of something for nothing, if someone wanted to work harder for more money, why penalise them? This was back in the 1970's. So even though it was futile, I voted conservative as that was the ethos I believed in. Then when Maggie came to power and virtually crippled S. Wales. by shutting the steel works and the pits, I decided then that I would never vote again. Because my vote counts for diddly squat, all that I believe in matters not a jot to any politician. If any politician told me they would re-nationalise any de-nationalised industry and keep them running as all the de-nationalised have been run, as profit making companies without the millions in salaries going to the executives, I would vote for them tomorrow. But, we all know that will never happen. As every politician is only there for Me, Myself and I. TC

very true I'm the same don't vote was thinking about it this time but don't think I will bother nothing but crooks the lot of them

[WILF 46,640]

This is the bare facts, over the last 20+ years successive governments have gambled with the taxpayers money and lost.......big time !!

This cancer reaches down as far as local councils too.

 

Over the coming years you are going to be paying ever increasing amounts of tax (legalised theft) and get even less for your money.....that's the bottom line.

 

They can't tell you this but it's the truth.

 

They will try and dress it up as this and that, appeal to one group or the other but the fact is you will be working even more months for the MPs than you already do.

There no reason to think any of the traditional 3 have any new solutions, it's a case of fool me once shame on you......fool me twice shame on me !!

 

UKIP may not have the solutions either, but let's be honest, they can't be any worse than what we have had and at least they are starting from the basic premise that a mans money belongs to him and NOT the state !!

 

Sounds like a plan, or at least the bones of a plan

[Guest ragumup]

Ukip isn't sanctioned by the system the papers the media are in the main against them.....

[Blackbriar 8,569]

I'm sure I'm going to come across as cynical (surely not?), but this is how I see things in the mainstream.

 

(I'm paraphrasing a bit here.................... )

 

 

 

 

Conservative = More people removed from income tax (less money for schools, hospitals, roads etc), resulting in more cuts. Tax cuts for the wealthiest. An increase in borrowing and, as a result, the national deficit - don't believe them, they haven't reduced it by a single penny and are still borrowing £220 million EVERY DAY.

Europe - renegotiate the British position. European response ? NO ! CaMoron's demands would be illegal (in European law), and will never be conceded to. CaMoron's retort ? An IN/OUT referendum - only he won't go through with it - they've been putting it off for years - the Tories would be hopelessly divided, and he would be re-titled 'Leader of Her Majesty's Lame Duck government'.

 

Labour = More people removed from income tax (less money for schools, hospitals, roads etc), resulting in more cuts. Further European integration (more immigration, loss of sovereignty and corruption) - we're not even considering a referendum, because we're even more divided than they are !. Tax cuts for the wealthiest. An increase in borrowing and, as a result, the national deficit. In fact, we're so close to the party who are supposed to be our implacable enemy, that we promise to stick to their spending plans for at least the first term of a new parliament.(Official Labour policy !)

 

"Sure, we've got some great new ideas, like the mansion tax, but they are uncosted and not properly thought out. Still, trust us and we'll see you right !" (Point finger, hand gesture, smug grin aaaaaaaand relax!)

 

LibDem's = Who knows ? Who cares ? (I mean, honestly, who actually cares?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

And they wonder why voter turn-out is so low............ Blackbriar, News at Ten, Westminster.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

The deficit hasn't changed despite a booming economy because they daren't increase taxation and daren't decrease spending. We (the electorate) can groan about politics all we want but there's some shitty medicine we are going to have to take soon if we are serious about sorting this country out. So far, we've all been guilty of wanting more money today and to hell with tomorrow and in a democracy that attitude will present you with politicians that happily give you it.

 

I guess this is where the 'working man' tells me the big solution is to tax the rich more heavily and stop wasting money on foreign aid?

[WILF 46,640]

The solution is to get off the wheel as fast as possible and let them all get on with it !!

[diggory 130]

UKIP

[Guest ragumup]

Cut taxes for the poor they tend to spend more on goods and services etc. so more money going into the system thats more profits for businesses = more tax revenues.

 

Cut taxes for the rich then you attract more businesses to the UK so more jobs = more tax revenues and existing businesses tend to expand/ employ more people = more tax revenues. If you tax the rich more you actually get less its called the laffer curve .

 

 

Ukip plan to do both.

Edited October 21, 2014 by ragumup

[Joe1888 672]

Am going to share something from news up here.. Wasnt to long ago that certin members here were jumping all over this guys comments about an iscotland joining the eu as if his words were the gospel.

 

Do you believe him still?

 

Stop us if you've heard this one before.

 

European Commission President José Manuel Barroso has warned the UK that voting to leave the EU would spark capital flight as companies move their headquarters to the continent.

 

Speaking at Chatham House on Monday, the outgoing EU leader said: "They have told me, some of the most important global companies, that they will move out of Britain from the City to Frankfurt or to Paris if Britain leaves the European Union."

 

Mr Barroso said Britain was too wee, too poor, and too stupid to run its own affairs and warned that the country's valuable reserves of Daily Mail headlines would dry up without the EU.

 

Shut it and eat your cereal, Mr Barroso added.

 

Prime Minister David Cameron wants voters to say Yes to remaining in the EU in the forthcoming in/out referendum but he has vowed to get more powers devolved from Brussels to Westminster. Britain can have the best of both worlds, the Tory leader claims, staying part of the EU while doing things that clearly contravene EU law like limiting immigration from other member states.

 

The Commission President's remarks echo his comments during the independence referendum. Mr Barroso suggested an independent Scotland could only apply for EU membership by going to the back of the queue, saying pretty please, and juggling a family of hamsters while explaining the plot of Inception.

 

Nigel Farage, unofficial head of the campaign to say No Thanks to bloody foreigners, welcomed Mr Barroso's comments, telling reporters: "Mr Cameron has been saying to people 'we can have our cake and eat it'. We can't. He's actually been deceiving the British public."

 

The Ukip leader reassured voters that his metaphorical cake was a good English dessert like an Eccles cake or possibly a generous slice of bread and butter pudding. None of that French muck, mind. Right shifty-looking, those frog pastries. Mille-feuille and tarte au bleedin' citron.

 

If a Crêpe Suzette tries to sneak in at Dover, it'll be going straight back under a Ukip government, Mr Farage pledged.

 

Mr Farage, who first came to prominence playing Del Boy in popular Eighties sitcom Only Fools and Horses, shows his principled opposition to the EU by sitting in the European Parliament and taking a salary of £79,000. He believes decisions about Britain should be made by the people who live and work in Britain. Specifically, taxi DRIVERS, retired builders, and people on TalkSport's banned caller list.

 

The SNP dismissed Mr Barroso's comments, saying they had been "criticised by EU experts and questioned by his own Vice President" and sending journalists quotes from an academic describing Barroso as "an outgoing Commission President with no influence on what might happen".

 

No, wait. That's what they said when Barroso was warning about Scotland's membership of the EU after a Yes vote.

[twobob 1,497]

Cut taxes for the poor they tend to spend more on goods and services etc. so more money going into the system thats more profits for businesses = more tax revenues.

 

Cut taxes for the rich then you attract more businesses to the UK so more jobs = more tax revenues and existing businesses tend to expand/ employ more people = more tax revenues. If you tax the rich more you actually get less its called the laffer curve .

 

 

Ukip plan to do both.

what about the big businesses that pay no tax inthe uk?what do they come under good or bad?

[twobob 1,497]

 

I'm still undecided. On the one hand, do I want more immigration, higher taxes and to be treated like a second class citizen in my own country? Or on the other hand do I want the opposite? Hmmm.

 

Labour are solely to blame for the huge number of murderous foreigners in our midst who apparently hate us so much, but not enough to refuse to sponge off us.

 

Anyone who would want labour in to f**k our country up even more than they did last time (if that's possible) needs psychiatric help.

 

Decisions, decisions.

Yep difficlult that one mate if I may help with a few additional reminders

 

Hand gun ban

Hunting ban

50% of our gold reserves sold off at record low prices

Uncapped immigration

Human rights agreement with Europe

 

I think I tend to agree with you anyone voting Labour needs their bumps feeling.

 

and after 4 years of a tory lib dem government what has changed?they havnt got time for the hunting ban found it for gay marriages though oh and increased immigration

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

 

I'm still undecided. On the one hand, do I want more immigration, higher taxes and to be treated like a second class citizen in my own country? Or on the other hand do I want the opposite? Hmmm.

 

Labour are solely to blame for the huge number of murderous foreigners in our midst who apparently hate us so much, but not enough to refuse to sponge off us.

 

Anyone who would want labour in to f**k our country up even more than they did last time (if that's possible) needs psychiatric help.

 

Decisions, decisions.

 

Yep difficlult that one mate if I may help with a few additional reminders

Hand gun ban

Hunting ban

50% of our gold reserves sold off at record low prices

Uncapped immigration

Human rights agreement with Europe

I think I tend to agree with you anyone voting Labour needs their bumps feeling.

and after 4 years of a tory lib dem government what has changed?they havnt got time for the hunting ban found it for gay marriages though oh and increased immigration

You forget this isn't a tory govt it's a coalition with the Lib Dems. Like it or not everything they do needs to be agreed with Nick Clegg or it doesn't go through. I suspect the gay marriage thing was a sweetner for the Lib Dems to push something through the commons as its got their name al overr it.

The hunting ban would never be overturned with this situation, as for immigration the fact that Labour signed us up for The human rights act with Europe left us well and truly with our pants down as any low life peice of scum that clearly doesn't belong here just clings onto this and enters into a lengthy and very costly to the tax payers process. Al thanks to Mr Blair and Brown.

Seriously if Labour get in power this country is well and truly finished its that simple.

[Guest ragumup]

They come under bad ...Ukips said they are going to sort multinationals like Starbucks and Google etc by taxing their turnover so they can't get out of it....there's a big difference in paying low taxes and paying no taxes ....