Red Tail Female Swop For Female Harris

[James penfold 3]

[CrowHawker 227]

Some info?

[James penfold 3]

Flying free at 2lbs 10 really steady bird quiet as a mouse has got damage to tail feathers and primaries would like to swap for a young Harris female

[Longers7 720]

How old is she? Why do you want to swap for a Harris?

[James penfold 3]

28 weeks can't fly very well with the state of the feathers

[CrowHawker 227]

Why are the feathers in a state? Why don't you imp some in? Know one with half a brain will swap mate I wouldn't of thought but good luck nate

Edited October 13, 2014 by CrowHawker

[charlie caller 3,654]

I take it this is the same bird you got from Mike Wyatt? you are doing the typical first time redtail owners mistake, you have probably flown a Harris before and decided to try a red yes? So then as you have admitted in a different post, you tried to train/treat it like a Harris, you could not get a good response so you kept dropping the weight(as you say it was a BAD idea) reds are not like Harris hawks they must be worked hard for their rations and held steady at a weight you can get a decent response at, then repetition is the key it is no good trying to get twenty 50 yard flights for a chick leg, much better is to get three or four good instant responses for a full chick, then get them going on the lure, flying free and hunting, if you keep dropping the weight they go into fasting mode and become even more truculent, this is whan people then drop them some more and bingo you have got one seriously evil dangerous hawk on your hands, my advice to you is get some feathers imped in, you say she is flying free at 2lb10 oz ok well work the ass off her at that and get her killing quick, once she starts you will never look back, reds are awesome but take more work to get them going than a Harris, my male is due to start free flights any day (weather permitting) if he was a Harris he would have been killing for a fortnight, but they are worth it in the end mate trust me, put the work in and you WILL reap the rewards, good luck.

[j j m 6,525]

_{good advice from above i flew a red tail female for 4 years,as has been said once you get them going its great but you cant compare a redtail to a harris}

[CrowHawker 227]

This is why I think a red tails make good beginners birds for someone with a mentor!

[flynndog 543]

I went from a female harris to a male finnish gos that came from mick caine very fast evil bird then gor a red ... different type of behaviour to get killing but never get a harris again after a red

[charlie caller 3,654]

You still fly the red mate?

[CrowHawker 227]

How old was the Harris when you changed for the gos? because anyone who has not flown a Harris past the age of say 8 and flown it to its full potential can make a comment like that.

Edited October 14, 2014 by CrowHawker

[James penfold 3]

Thanks for the advice mr Charlie caller when you say a instant response that's the problem even at 10 feet seen other reds on you tube etc and they are coming soon as the fist goes up . Just have to keep doing shorter distances and bigger rewards

[CrowHawker 227]

Where are you if your near somerset I could imp her tail for you

[James penfold 3]

I'm down near Plymouth thanks for the offer I've found some feathers on ebay think they are going to go sky high on price tho