block end 242 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Dog killer.. its hard for the dog to differentiate when its bred to kill, these fox killers ect are best not to socialise to much. My opinionwhat a f***ing silly thing to say you clown 1 Quote Link to post
francolin 449 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 don't sugar coat it block end, just tell him straight Quote Link to post
teddog 59 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Dog killer.. its hard for the dog to differentiate when its bred to kill, these fox killers ect are best not to socialise to much. My opinion i thought to socialise it more would be better. thank god einstein put me right. Quote Link to post
CraignTod 278 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Lol.. dogs are funny creatures, get them used to killing stuff, and the next thing you know their killing stuff you dont want them to! Just personal experience... Calm down bell end I mean block end. :-D Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 i would not tolerate a dog aggressive dog no matter what quarry i was hunting as my dogs more often than not have to hunt in a pack. I have owned a grey/stag x ridgeback that loved nothing more than taking foxes and i happily exercised him in the local dog park with numerous types of dogs from tiny to x large and never had an issue even when he was attacked by some overzealous terrier, kelpie or whatever. when he was with a big pack of boardogs he would get a little nervous though and he could not be trusted with cats at all. Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Lol.. dogs are funny creatures, get them used to killing stuff, and the next thing you know their killing stuff you dont want them to! Just personal experience... Calm down bell end I mean block end. :-D you're wrong again... 1 Quote Link to post
irishnut 297 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Dog killer.. its hard for the dog to differentiate when its bred to kill, these fox killers ect are best not to socialise to much. My opinion You know nothing about dogs. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 If a good fox dog, that is well socialised, it turns on another dog it is far more likely that it has other issues. I had one lurcher who had a mega high defence drive. She was a brilliant fox dog, and all rounder, but she couldn't tolerate another dog having a go at her, even bumping into her during play. She was only 100% tolerant with her dam and her own pups when not working. However, when she was working, she never turned on a terrier or other lurcher once in her life because she was totally focussed on what she was supposed to be killing, so in a way I do see where Craigntod is coming from, even though I disagree with the idea that once any dog learns to kill, then they're likely to turn on anything. If a dog kills foxes because it is in defence mode (I kill you before you get a chance to bite me) then it may be a superb fox killer, but it will also have a very short fuse around other dogs. Whereas the dog that kills foxes as business, getting on with the job, as in hyper prey mode, but only towards that particular species, won't ever turn on another dog. It's the dogs in defence mode that can be a problem around other dogs. But there's also the sort that just don't tolerate outsiders: dogs that they don't know, that they consider a potential threat. Once again, that can be defensive, but it can also mean a lack of socialisation with lots of different dogs. 1 Quote Link to post
block end 242 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Lol.. dogs are funny creatures, get them used to killing stuff, and the next thing you know their killing stuff you dont want them to! Just personal experience... Calm down bell end I mean block end. :-D theres only one bell end on this topic you f***ing idiot theres two types of people with working dogs you got your dog boys then you got boys with dogs your just a clown without makeup Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Sorry craigntodd but if that is your experience with dogs then you haven't for a great deal of experience and your thoughts are way off the mark. Every lurcher or running dog my family has owned has taken allsorts of. Quary and not one was at all dog aggressive ever, quite the opposite very mild mannered generally. Ok a swept ate note to the first post, a few smashed up toes is surely not the end the dog, we have had greyhounds with more than one toe removed and still open winners and good workers atb. Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Skycat genuine question would a dog in defence mode not generally jack so to speak on a fox at which point the fox usually goes for self preservation and is on his bike. Most creatures surely understand the basic principle of self preservation when it comes to confrontation. It can be different obviously if the dogs movement and thus decision making is ltd ie it can't run away. Not saying this is correct just a thought atb Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Think all you lads who have bull x's that have dog friendly.dogs need to be asking questions about the bull dog that was used 1 Quote Link to post
rodders85 6 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Lol.. dogs are funny creatures, get them used to killing stuff, and the next thing you know their killing stuff you dont want them to! Just personal experience...Calm down bell end I mean block end. :-D My lab got attacked by a staffie one day I guess that it must have been worked to kill foxes too or other dogs. I have to keep an eye on my lab as shes wary of other dogs now and has to be watched very carefully. Shes ok with my new pup though which is strange. I guess my lab must be a killer or has killed a fox or dog when I wasnt looking to make her like that. I wont bother trying to socialise my lab slowly to try to get her right again ill just have her put to sleep as I don't want a killer in my house. Edited October 7, 2014 by rodders85 Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Skycat genuine question would a dog in defence mode not generally jack so to speak on a fox at which point the fox usually goes for self preservation and is on his bike. Most creatures surely understand the basic principle of self preservation when it comes to confrontation. It can be different obviously if the dogs movement and thus decision making is ltd ie it can't run away. Not saying this is correct just a thought atb Quote Link to post
jambay5 191 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Well I put this post on for u guys to cheer me up lol!! Been a shit 12 months!! Somehow wish I was a vet!! Quote Link to post
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