samboy 304 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ive had my CZ .22 for 9 yrs now and never cleaned it. But just recently the spent cases have been getting stuck and wont extract, So i took the extractors off the bolt and cleaned the muck out of them and where they fit on the bolt. It seemed to do the trick for a while but had the same trouble again. So me thinks the breech may need a wire brushing. If that does not work it could mean 2 new extractors. Could also mean the new batch of Win subs may be at fault. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Was told by my RFD to clean the bore of my .223 after every use due to the corrosive propellant used in centrefire ammoShows what he knows then, I have a mate who has never cleaned his .222 in around 18 years of owning it, and it is still a very very accurate rifle, more rifles have been ruined by over enthusiastic "cleaning" than shooting. Makes you wonder why there is bore solvent, copper remover, brushes, rods, etc etc etc.............. apparently nothing needs cleaning? :hmm: Quote Link to post
Coypu Hunter 486 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ive had my CZ .22 for 9 yrs now and never cleaned it. But just recently the spent cases have been getting stuck and wont extract, So i took the extractors off the bolt and cleaned the muck out of them and where they fit on the bolt. It seemed to do the trick for a while but had the same trouble again. So me thinks the breech may need a wire brushing. If that does not work it could mean 2 new extractors. Could also mean the new batch of Win subs may be at fault. You'll find a ring of carbon deposited inside the breech, just beyond where the end of the .22 casing sits. The build-up will be sticking to the empty case, making it difficult to extract. I'd never use a wire brush though. Blast some Ballistol into the breech (or WD40, or 3-in-1 oil) until it runs out of the muzzle. Leave it to soak in for a while. Then run some patches soaked in Ballistol through the barrel from chamber to muzzle until they come out clean. Follow up with a couple of dry patches until they come out completely clean and dry, and you're good to go. For a pull-through, I use a length of plastic strimmer wire, crimped in the middle with a pair of pliers. It's soft, so won't damage the barrel crown or breech area. I push it in from the muzzle, put a 2cm square of cotton (normally cut-up old T-shirts) in the crimp, blast with Ballistol, and pull through to the muzzle, keeping the plastic wire centered in the crown. A lot cheaper than buying all those "special" patches and pull-throughs. 1 Quote Link to post
andyf 144 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Use cleaning rods and a bore guide, never use a pull through / bore snake in a rifle, it'll ruin the crown by abrading it as you can't pull it straight. As for bore cleaning frequency I do my .22rf about once a year, and the centrefires after 30>50 shots, and also if any rifle gets wet. Quote Link to post
celticrusader 78 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Yeah all pretty good guys and not to dissimilar ways of doing the same thing tbh. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Was told by my RFD to clean the bore of my .223 after every use due to the corrosive propellant used in centrefire ammoShows what he knows then, I have a mate who has never cleaned his .222 in around 18 years of owning it, and it is still a very very accurate rifle, more rifles have been ruined by over enthusiastic "cleaning" than shooting. Makes you wonder why there is bore solvent, copper remover, brushes, rods, etc etc etc.............. apparently nothing needs cleaning? :hmm: I know its amazing what crap the gun trade spout to sell their products isn't it? :hmm:and as for a pull through ruining the crown well I make mine from fly fishing line, love to see that damage a crown Edited October 7, 2014 by charlie caller 1 Quote Link to post
Coypu Hunter 486 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Was told by my RFD to clean the bore of my .223 after every use due to the corrosive propellant used in centrefire ammoShows what he knows then, I have a mate who has never cleaned his .222 in around 18 years of owning it, and it is still a very very accurate rifle, more rifles have been ruined by over enthusiastic "cleaning" than shooting. Makes you wonder why there is bore solvent, copper remover, brushes, rods, etc etc etc.............. apparently nothing needs cleaning? :hmm: I know its amazing what crap the gun trade spout to sell their products isn't it? :hmm:and as for a pull through ruining the crown well I make mine from fly fishing line, love to see that damage a crown Exactly. Soft plastic damaging a steel crown? I don't think so, especially if you keep it centered as you pull through, like I said. 1 Quote Link to post
shootlodge 145 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 With the speed, compression, copper ,lead or whatever travels down you barrel , at the velocity whatever cal..Your not going to Damage crown or rifleing using correct copper brush, rod, pull thru nor anything else condensation, unburned power however WILL . Try it , leave you mod on, & dont clean the barrel etc for a few outings, then check an area of visibility , say the crown Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 With the speed, compression, copper ,lead or whatever travels down you barrel , at the velocity whatever cal..Your not going to Damage crown or rifleing using correct copper brush, rod, pull thru nor anything else condensation, unburned power however WILL . Try it , leave you mod on, & dont clean the barrel etc for a few outings, then check an area of visibility , say the crown There is a suggestion that you can from some quarters, somehow I struggle with this, even with an abrasive bore snake pulled unevenly I would have thought it would have taken a lot of effort over many, many sessions to mess up a crown. I remain firmly in the clean it camp. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 With the speed, compression, copper ,lead or whatever travels down you barrel , at the velocity whatever cal..Your not going to Damage crown or rifleing using correct copper brush, rod, pull thru nor anything else condensation, unburned power however WILL . Try it , leave you mod on, & dont clean the barrel etc for a few outings, then check an area of visibility , say the crown We are not talking about leaving the moderator on after shooting, that will most deffo screw up your crown and the first couple of inches of barrel from the muzzle, due to the condensation inside the moderator dripping down onto the crown and threads and into the barrel itself, I will repeat what I said earlier, I have a mate who has never cleaned his .222 in around 18 years of owning it, ok he has not shot thousands of rounds through it, but even at a hundred rounds a year that is eighteen hundred rounds, and the rifle is still super accurate, capable of shooting a 1/2 inch group at 100 yards with factory ammunition, explain that I am in no way advocating doing the same, as I clean my cf every 30-50 rounds or so, but it is certainly food for thought, dont you agree? Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) Was told by my RFD to clean the bore of my .223 after every use due to the corrosive propellant used in centrefire ammo Is the correct answer. Edited October 12, 2014 by ianm Quote Link to post
Rowan 308 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I clean my rifles every outing , whether 1-100 shots, all calibres including 22Lr, all are 10p group accurate @ 100yds. Taking no more than 5 shots until cooled. For competition I clean & pull thru the bore every 5 shots. Its preference, & im out there daily Same here, clean every time and use a bore snake on my target rifle during a competition . Perhaps I can save some time and not clean them every time then I will have more time to watch Jeremy kyle. NNNNNNNNNNNNNooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! a bad joke , sorry. Quote Link to post
andyf 144 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Cleaning rods, good (i.e. expensive) brushes & mops, bore guides, clean from the breech end only, decent solvent. Pull through's are for industrial grade guns and military 'gash', but if you think a fishing line pull through is good enough, that's your choice, it's your gun, (see why I never buy second hand)? Best of luck with that one! Quote Link to post
Cedric 132 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 A rotary toothbrush dipped in solvent does a good job of cleaning the recesses of the breech face. Quote Link to post
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