MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Went out yesterday to set a few fenns and snares for rabbits also took couple of fox snares,went back just had it was getting dark had a couple of rabbits in the fenns,went back this morning had couple more rabbits and a nice dog fox buzzing me tits of at the moment? I'm happy,farmers happy but the misses isn't cause I didn't get her a hare ? Fox was still alive,dispatched with shotgun before pic was took. Four nice meals 9 Quote Link to post
RemyBolt 420 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Nice bag. Good to see everything in action. I forgot to take my snares to the farm on Friday night however, I'm back down a different site tonight and the farmer has okayed the snares for ratting. So I should be popping a small review like this soon, but all about rats. Quote Link to post
ratbuster 807 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Nice bunch of rabbits does a Fenn type trap always catch around the neck ? Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Ratbuster when the fenns are set in the right place ie the underhang of the burrow entrance 9/10 the rabbit is caught around neck/rib area,as always though when using traps or snares there is the chance of the odd foul catch no matter how careful you are. 1 Quote Link to post
ratbuster 807 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Mr. T. message received ! Trapping anything except mice / rats is forbidden in the Netherlands (except live traps with special permission) so i wandered about the use of them Fens. I know you can only use approved traps on vermin, and I really liked the way the rabbits were trapped according to the photo's you've showed. Think it's a fast an humane way of catching and killing the animals. Should have thought that shooting that snared fox with a shotgun would show much more damage to the fox, Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 The fox was shot with .410 shotgun back of the head,I put the fox on the side that didn't have much blood and brain. Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 How come your not allowed to trap animal in the Netherlands? Are you allowed to control pest ie shooting etc? Quote Link to post
ratbuster 807 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) Holland has rather restrictive hunting laws e.g you are only granted a hunting licence after passing a rather stiff exam (will cost you between € 2000 and €3000 to complete) You need to own or hire a minimum of 40 hectares of land, insurance etc, and after going through this red tape, you're allowed to hunt the following animals; mallard, rabbit, hare, pheasant ( no rearing allowed, only wild birds) and woodpigeon. These are on the general license. For the rest you need special permission licences issued by the local government. Geese, crows, etc. So all game animals are protected unless...... All based on conservation plans from the local shooting / hunting club. On a hunting licence you're only allowed a 12, 16, 20, 24 bore shotgun, all other calibers are forbidden. So no .410 bore for us, isn't adequate on game they say, not even on rabbit or jackdaws.Rifle calibers only 5.56 mm (.22) and up, so no .17 HMR for us either. all big game on special licence : deer, boar. No lead shot allowed, no traps allowed except live traps with special permission, you first have to prove you have damage from say crows, before you are granted a licence and you have to proof there's no other way to restrict the damage. . No lamping allowed on foxes or rabbits unless special permission, rabbits on graveyards, that sort of thing. Hunting with dogs like lurchers was forbidden from the 1920's. You see the powers of the bunny huggers are rather great in this country, they even have their own political party ( no kidding !) The Netherlands have about 35.000 people who hunt / shoot, most coming from a rural background. The powers and influence from the urban society is so great that a lot of people see hunting as something bad and should be totally forbidden. Only official civil servants should do the culling where necessary. Enjoy what you have ! PS: Although we don't have any restrictions on the power output of our air-rifles, we aren't allowed to hunt / shot with them other than on paper or ft targets. Can have a 100 fpe plus 9mm air rifle , but can't use it on a rat (legally....) On vermin (rats/ mice) only break back traps are allowed, nothing else. So no Fenns over here. PSS: Snaring was also forbidden in the 1920's Edited September 28, 2014 by ratbuster 1 Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Blimey glad I don't live in Holland then thanks for that mate very interesting read. 410 is adequote for rabbits and other vermin upto about 25yds. So is it the bunny huggers as you say that as banned most of the hunting? Think we should be thankful in the UK ? 2 Quote Link to post
ratbuster 807 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 410 is adequate for rabbits and other vermin up to about 25 yds No, it's not ! Do you want to dispute the wisdom of all those qualified Bunny Huggers in this country ...........? Think Brian May would love it over here with al his PETA friends 1 Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Lol you can have Brian May hes s tit and his guitar playing is crap ?? 1 Quote Link to post
RemyBolt 420 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Think we should be thankful in the UK With the gun laws and everything, I never thought I'd be agreeing with this sentence, but I find myself smiling about being in the UK now. Quote Link to post
shropshire mole 190 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Very interesting read. Tp I assume you lightly cover the fenns with soil so that the rabbit does not know? or do you set in all holes so they have no choice but to "go for it" Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 SM I dig a bed out in the burrow floor,to place the trap into so it sits flush with floor then I lightly cover with soil so rabbit does know it's there. Quote Link to post
ratbuster 807 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Are those MK4 or 6 you're using ? Quote Link to post
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