WILF 47,677 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I wasn't trying annoy anybody but when plain basic facts annoy folk there's not much can be done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Grant mate you had some cracking posts there but yer banging yer heed against a brick wall. People see what the want to see, read what they want to read and listen to what they want to hear. We will see what happens in the near future.Just like you mate.. you not considered that you maybe had all that work come through on the fencing in recent years because of the strength of the UK economy recovering after one of the worst GLOBAL financial meltdowns the world has ever seen? Many Scotland sized countries are still struggling. These are the important things mate, how much is it going to cost to run a car, how much am I going to have to pay to have a pint etc. The global markets WILL crash again at some point in our lifetimes and the bigger and more powerful your economy the better placed you'll be to recover from it.If we live in such a big powerful country mate then why is there homeless on the street, why are they food banks, why don't we have the finest medical care the world can buy, why is our minimum wage shite, why are so many on benefits, why can't people get a mortgage etc etc.I thought we had a chance to change that.....now you may say to me where's yer proof and I may not have concrete facts....how could I in the world of politics??? Same could be said for countries far, far richer than ours mate and they still have issues like people living in abject poverty. You say the minimum wage is shit but me and my wife both work for around minimum and we manage to run two cars, pay the bills and feed three kids on it..So you wouldn't like more mate??If I did it would be up to me to do something about it mate, not the government. I do enough hours in a week to make the job pay a half decent wage at the minute, if that changes I'll get something else. Despite what people say there are jobs out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mackay 3,404 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 So much for accepting the outcome whichever way it went, jobs done, accept it and move on. Heard someone on the radio (and on here) saying the pensioners bottled it and cost the country independence and that obviously they won't be here forever and next time around independence would be more likely. I'd argue next time around the niave haven't experienced life teenagers will have wised up and there views may well have changed. Of the two groups pensioners or 16 to 18 year olds I know who I would listen to. I'd also add, it was a calculated move on Salmonds part to give teenagers the vote in the hope of swinging it. I'm actually surprised he didn't do a deal and have Braveheart on the telly the night before the vote. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Grant mate you had some cracking posts there but yer banging yer heed against a brick wall. People see what the want to see, read what they want to read and listen to what they want to hear. We will see what happens in the near future.Just like you mate.. you not considered that you maybe had all that work come through on the fencing in recent years because of the strength of the UK economy recovering after one of the worst GLOBAL financial meltdowns the world has ever seen? Many Scotland sized countries are still struggling. These are the important things mate, how much is it going to cost to run a car, how much am I going to have to pay to have a pint etc. The global markets WILL crash again at some point in our lifetimes and the bigger and more powerful your economy the better placed you'll be to recover from it. If we live in such a big powerful country mate then why is there homeless on the street, why are they food banks, why don't we have the finest medical care the world can buy, why is our minimum wage shite, why are so many on benefits, why can't people get a mortgage etc etc. I thought we had a chance to change that.....now you may say to me where's yer proof and I may not have concrete facts....how could I in the world of politics??? Name me one country that doesn't have those problems. Funnily enough most of the other opinion polls showed that under 18's were among the strongest supporters of the Union. Maybe the older generation voted no because they're wiser and have a lifetime of experience behind them? Edited September 21, 2014 by C556 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR RABBIT 715 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) BY the looks off it ,,if England wants to keep Scotland ,looks like its going to cost them,,,just keep throwing that extra money up here , my English cosins ,,you were played by the jocks ,,hahaha Edited September 21, 2014 by MR RABBIT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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sikastag_1 689 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) On 21/09/2014 at 18:50, MR RABBIT said: ..... Edited August 16, 2021 by sikastag_1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 well max video evidence on youtube tells otherwise lad go an watch an get back,an see what you say then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 So much for accepting the outcome whichever way it went, jobs done, accept it and move on. Heard someone on the radio (and on here) saying the pensioners bottled it and cost the country independence and that obviously they won't be here forever and next time around independence would be more likely. I'd argue next time around the niave haven't experienced life teenagers will have wised up and there views may well have changed. Of the two groups pensioners or 16 to 18 year olds I know who I would listen to. I'd also add, it was a calculated move on Salmonds part to give teenagers the vote in the hope of swinging it. I'm actually surprised he didn't do a deal and have Braveheart on the telly the night before the vote. Ok answer this......without the oaps it would have been a landslide. The 20's - 60's funnily enough voted for Independence. So what we are saying here is the youngsters, the mums and the dads all voted for there children's futures and the grandparents said 'f**k ye!!". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) the latest from mr salmond https://www.(!64.56:886/video.php?v=455290201278546 Its going to happen one day... Indyref stats 73% of 1.2M Scottish pensioners voted against independence contributing almost 900000 no votes.Everyone else? 66% for yes Edited September 21, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR RABBIT 715 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) BY the looks off it ,,if England wants to keep Scotland ,looks like its going to cost them,,,just keep throwing that extra money up here , my English cosins ,,you were played by the jocks ,,hahahaHaha fair play mate I know you said it in jest and a few will take it the wrong way but it made me laugh, trouble is tho they are playing us mate its the other way about, if we had nothing to offer they'd be begging us to leave not stay, they are getting more than they give.i was flicking threw euro news channels before results were called and they were saying no vote would win they didnt want us to go..they must have also put presure on westminster if they dont deliver on the promises they made in last hour we could call another referedum without their premission ..so iam hearing...for some reason i dont think plls will be waiting 20year for another..if plls want to have another try ..time will tell one things for sure it going to be a headach for westminster as now they will not want to upset the applecart Edited September 21, 2014 by MR RABBIT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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WILF 47,677 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 If Westminster think that another vote is on the cards sooner rather than later and they reckon it will be "YES" they will make sure everything is sewn up right to benefit those who want to still be part of the union and tell you lot who keep moaning to sling your hook ! Move to the outer f***ing Hebrides or something and vote amongst yourself, there will be plenty of proud Scotmen left who are proud just to be Scotsmen, not just because they think being independent will give them a bigger helping at the trough !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 If Westminster think that another vote is on the cards sooner rather than later and they reckon it will be "YES" they will make sure everything is sewn up right to benefit those who want to still be part of the union and tell you lot who keep moaning to sling your hook ! Move to the outer f***ing Hebrides or something and vote amongst yourself, there will be plenty of proud Scotmen left who are proud just to be Scotsmen, not just because they think being independent will give them a bigger helping at the trough !! And I think that winds that up nicely. "We will f**k you over before you start again". Well done Wilf...?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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