Weird Question

[RemyBolt 420]

  On 22/09/2014 at 10:04, The one said:

Theres maybe a few things legal that happen are better no talked and posted on this site . big brothers watching you

Agreed, but we're all law abiding, and if another member is caught in a "Charged by a rat" situation, they'll be able to respond in a law abiding citizen kind of way....just like we all are.

 

I've asked BASC, but not heard back from them yet.

[RemyBolt 420]

WE HAVE A RESPONSE about stamping on a rat to kill it....copied and pasted WORD FOR WORD (almost) from the email response I got. One word of note, I don't get the purple background on one of the punctuation marks. But that's as it appears in the email. Please do not let that detract from the information.

 

Dear Mr RemyBolt,

You are clearly a very sexy and overly intelligent specimen of humankind.

Thankyou for your recent enquiry, I would refer you to the “Animal Welfare Act 2006” section 4, Unnecessary suffering,

(1) A Person commits an offence if—

(a) an act of his, or a failure of his to act, causes an animal to suffer,

( he knew, or ought reasonably to have known, that the act, or failure to act, would have that effect or be likely to do so.

Or: “Protection of Animals Act 1911”.

Section 1 offences of cruelty (1) (a)

A Person commits an offence if-

If any person shall cruelly beat, kick, ill-treat, over-ride, over-drive, over-load, torture, infuriate, or terrify any animal, or shall cause or procure, or, being the owner, permit any animal to be so used, or shall, by wantonly or unreasonably doing or omitting to do any act, or causing or procuring the commission or omission of any act, cause any unnecessary suffering, or, being the owner, permit any unnecessary suffering to be so caused to any animal.

I hope this gives you the guidance you require.

Kind regards,

Matt Dutton

Game & Gamekeeping Officer

BASC

Marford Mill

Rossett

Wrexham

LL12 0HL

[RemyBolt 420]

HAHA, I just noticed the B and ) made the smiley glasses emoticon. It's meant to say ( B ) and not

[matt_hooks 188]

Spectacularly failing to answer the question there by BASC.

 

I would say that a single boot to the skull is not going to cause un-necessary suffering. If you have to put the boot in the second, third or fourth time then you might be stretching it more than a little though.

[comanche 3,109]

The Basc legal reference to not "cruelly " beat,torture etc gives you the answer. As long as you are satisfied that your method will be effective and intend a humane end to the rat you have not acted illegally. Certainly if you have the" reasonable excuse" of legitimate pest control.

The word "cruelly" as defined by a dictionary infers the infliction of pain or suffering and you are looking for an instant effective kill. A good stamp or even backing a vehicle over an injured rabbit might not be aesthetically pleasing but as long as it done for legitimate reasons with the intent to avoid suffering there should be no problem.

Start playing football with an unfortunate victim for sport in the street and you could be on shaky ground !

Edited September 26, 2014 by comanche