Accip74 7,112 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Are we saying moderate Muslims don't exist?To answer that question you need to look at a country where it is ruled by the great majority of the population being an Islamic faith, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria etc etcYou tell me if they are moderate or not? There's an implication moderate Muslims don't exist, right? That deep down they are all secret jihadist's, waiting for the trigger......that would be our biggest threat wouldn't it?Thats why I asked the question, do we think they don't exist, even on home soil? Moderate or fundamentalist they all want the same thing, for Islam to rule the world, if they don't want that they can't be classed as muslim So theres a few thinking there Muslims but there not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Are we saying moderate Muslims don't exist?To answer that question you need to look at a country where it is ruled by the great majority of the population being an Islamic faith, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria etc etcYou tell me if they are moderate or not? There's an implication moderate Muslims don't exist, right? That deep down they are all secret jihadist's, waiting for the trigger......that would be our biggest threat wouldn't it?Thats why I asked the question, do we think they don't exist, even on home soil? Moderate or fundamentalist they all want the same thing, for Islam to rule the world, if they don't want that they can't be classed as muslim So theres a few thinking there Muslims but there not? Muslims HAVE to believe EVERY SINGLE WORD of the Quran, no ifs no buts EVERY SINGLE WORD, the Quran is the unalterable words of Allah for all time, so if a Muslim doesn't want Islam to rule the world that takes them out of the fold of islam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Are we saying moderate Muslims don't exist?To answer that question you need to look at a country where it is ruled by the great majority of the population being an Islamic faith, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria etc etcYou tell me if they are moderate or not? There's an implication moderate Muslims don't exist, right? That deep down they are all secret jihadist's, waiting for the trigger......that would be our biggest threat wouldn't it?Thats why I asked the question, do we think they don't exist, even on home soil? Moderate or fundamentalist they all want the same thing, for Islam to rule the world, if they don't want that they can't be classed as muslimSo theres a few thinking there Muslims but there not?Muslims HAVE to believe EVERY SINGLE WORD of the Quran, no ifs no buts EVERY SINGLE WORD, the Quran is the unalterable words of Allah for all time, so if a Muslim doesn't want Islam to rule the world that takes them out of the fold of islamSo like I said, there's quite few deluded into thinking they are Muslims......when actually they are not....judging by your info... Edited September 16, 2014 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Are we saying moderate Muslims don't exist?To answer that question you need to look at a country where it is ruled by the great majority of the population being an Islamic faith, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria etc etcYou tell me if they are moderate or not? There's an implication moderate Muslims don't exist, right? That deep down they are all secret jihadist's, waiting for the trigger......that would be our biggest threat wouldn't it?Thats why I asked the question, do we think they don't exist, even on home soil? Moderate or fundamentalist they all want the same thing, for Islam to rule the world, if they don't want that they can't be classed as muslimSo theres a few thinking there Muslims but there not?Muslims HAVE to believe EVERY SINGLE WORD of the Quran, no ifs no buts EVERY SINGLE WORD, the Quran is the unalterable words of Allah for all time, so if a Muslim doesn't want Islam to rule the world that takes them out of the fold of islamSo like I said, there's quite few deluded into thinking they are Muslims......when actually they are not....judging by your info... What if they haven't read every word of the Quran, how would they know if they were real Muslims or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I must of missed the thousands of moderate Muslims protesting on the streets about the jihad rape gangs ....... silent & tumble weed ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 what does that prove about Islam ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I only asked a simple question, do they exist? & ragumup I can't argue with that mate, you're bang on......but I've also never noticed the thousands of Brits marching on the streets, protesting about institutional child abuse, which had been going on in our own children's homes all over the country for years...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Accip , because Muslims march for the slightest thing, even a cartoon .... Edited September 16, 2014 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) moderates, exist but they are irrelevant they prove nothing about Islam .... do they believe in the Koran and the sunna of Mohammad ? Edited September 16, 2014 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Like I say, I think we have been a bit lacking in the marching department, over our own child abusers, which are still running children's homes...... If we are asking moderates to stand up & condemn every thing extremists etc do, surely we should be the same...... Edited September 16, 2014 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Are we saying moderate Muslims don't exist?To answer that question you need to look at a country where it is ruled by the great majority of the population being an Islamic faith, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria etc etcYou tell me if they are moderate or not? There's an implication moderate Muslims don't exist, right? That deep down they are all secret jihadist's, waiting for the trigger......that would be our biggest threat wouldn't it?Thats why I asked the question, do we think they don't exist, even on home soil? Moderate or fundamentalist they all want the same thing, for Islam to rule the world, if they don't want that they can't be classed as muslimSo theres a few thinking there Muslims but there not?Muslims HAVE to believe EVERY SINGLE WORD of the Quran, no ifs no buts EVERY SINGLE WORD, the Quran is the unalterable words of Allah for all time, so if a Muslim doesn't want Islam to rule the world that takes them out of the fold of islamSo like I said, there's quite few deluded into thinking they are Muslims......when actually they are not....judging by your info... What if they haven't read every word of the Quran, how would they know if they were real Muslims or not? Mate there are millions of what would be classed as secular Muslims ...BUT...when push comes to shove they will always side with other Muslims they have no choice, if they don't they will be classed either as kuffar or apostates Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just for the record, I'm not defending Islam here lol.......I have no interest in that religion or any other........but condemning all muslims? I find that difficult..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Accip , because Muslims march for the slightest thing, even a cartoon .... ....... they also know that a large swath of the white population has swallowed the lies of the multi-cultural apologists, and are too ill-disciplined and uncommitted to involve themselves in anything that means getting out of their armchairs or out of the pub ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Are we saying moderate Muslims don't exist?To answer that question you need to look at a country where it is ruled by the great majority of the population being an Islamic faith, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria etc etcYou tell me if they are moderate or not? There's an implication moderate Muslims don't exist, right? That deep down they are all secret jihadist's, waiting for the trigger......that would be our biggest threat wouldn't it?Thats why I asked the question, do we think they don't exist, even on home soil? I need to answer this in two parts, Is Islam a moderate religion absolutely 100% not, it is a very cruel, oppressive Are there some moderate Muslims living in the UK of course there are but that is only because they choose to only follow parts of the Koran that don't restrict their life style, Let me explain, for the last 16 years I have worked in Bradford which is one of the most densely Pakistani Muslim community's in the UK. I have witnessed their bare face lying, cheating, dishonesty at first hand but ONLY to the indigenous population as we are considered the un-believers, they won't cheat a fellow Muslim. I've known them drink alcohol, take drugs, smoke weed, commit adultery all of which isn't allowed within their religion but they still do it because they take the bits out of their religion that suits them, These are moderate Muslims, the ones who think its cool to tell the world they are oppressed brothers and sisters of the Islamic faith but what ever you do don't take away their Sky TV, mobile phone, or KFC. So what about the comment of this faith spreading, well my job takes me to Scotland several times a year as well as dozens of other city's in the UK, I have seen in the last 20 years with my own eyes the growth of the Pakistani/Islamic community in Birmingham,Leicester, Bradford and London is almost unrecognisable to 20 years ago. Scotland had been to a large extent has avoided this surge in population even in Edinburgh, Aberdeen Glasgow it's nowhere near the growth of UK cities which IMO is why some of the Scottish lads look upon these threads being written by a bunch of neo nazis. The truth is they haven't had the experience yet of a community which wishes to move in, refuse to integrate and work the system to gain as much from it as they can without putting back and then expecting the rest of the community to bend over backwards for fear of appearing fascist or racist. I am no racist, to me the colour of a persons skin is as important as the colour of their car, what in am is an Englishman with Christian values, I have worked every day since I left school at 15 (never been unemployed) to provide for my wife and children and I pay my taxes into a nation to hopefully help those less fortunate than myself. What boils my piss is feeling a 2nd rate citizen in my own country and seeing the growth of Islam which only wishes me harm or to change my religion to their perverse way of life. It is not just us it's the whole of Europe, France has practically gone they sleep walked into it and we are doing the same. Basic maths tells you if the indigenous population only has one or two children per family and the Islamic community doubles this growth rate there will eventually be a time when they are the majority population, not that I will live to see it thank god but I feel for my grand children and their children's children. Again this isn't right wing propaganda I've witnessed this first hand To be honest I get really bored of these threads but you asked so I answered you. ATB Seeker. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Accip , because Muslims march for the slightest thing, even a cartoon .... Worth pointing out that 8 cartoons were originally submitted to the Danish newspaper for publication. When the savages kicked up and threatened to kill anyone who re-printed them, the number of cartoons had strangely increased to 10 - the 2 which caused most offence were not in the original 8 ! Wonder how that happened................ ? Edited September 16, 2014 by Blackbriar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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