Proof The Earth Is Flat

[WILF 47,345]

 

So you think it's valid that there is no probability at all that the bible is true?......maybe not factually correct to modern standards but true all the same?

There's documented evidence of huge chunks of it so surely that makes it as valid as "evolution theory?"

That's my point

 

There are also huge chunks of it highly probable bullshit. But I'm out of my depth talking about the bible, so I wont.

 

Wilf, I really don't want to go down this path mate. You believe in creation, I don't. I don't think any worse of you for it, I'm not one that will mock a theist. You don't try to twist science, you just draw different conclusions from what you are presented with.

 

I'm fecking off before this turns crazy.

Fair play, personally I don't hold any "set in stone" belief about creation........life is fluid and I see and sense things that make me have a faith.

I think the bible is there to be studied and a lot can be learned from it........just don't think in literal terms.

 

Life for me holds much more colour with out everything being set in stone.

ATB mate

[sandymere 8,263]

The flat earth theory is a modern take on what people imagined the ancients thought,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

in reality all the early scientific civilizations knew the earth was round, Pythagoras in the 6^th century, Aristotle 330BC.

Many pre science cultures believed the idea but once a culture started using scientific principle they soon discovered the spherical globe.

 

 

Science knows it doesn’t know everything; otherwise, it’d stop. But just because science doesn’t know everything doesn’t mean you can fill in the gaps with whatever fairy tale most appeals to you. ( Dara OBriain )

[Born Hunter 17,783]

 

Life for me holds much more colour with out everything being set in stone.

ATB mate

 

 

Nothing should be untouchable mate..... we're both philisophers Wilf, we just walk slightly different paths.

[TUFFTY 1,476]

Feck me and you lot think im mad for having a rant sbout the political state of the country.

 

They say theres more out than in.

 

Bunch o loonies

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

So you think it's valid that there is no probability at all that the bible is true?......maybe not factually correct to modern standards but true all the same?

There's documented evidence of huge chunks of it so surely that makes it as valid as "evolution theory?"

That's my point

 

There are also huge chunks of it highly probable bullshit. But I'm out of my depth talking about the bible, so I wont.

 

Wilf, I really don't want to go down this path mate. You believe in creation, I don't. I don't think any worse of you for it, I'm not one that will mock a theist. You don't try to twist science, you just draw different conclusions from what you are presented with.

 

I'm fecking off before this turns crazy.

Fair play, personally I don't hold any "set in stone" belief about creation........life is fluid and I see and sense things that make me have a faith.

I think the bible is there to be studied and a lot can be learned from it........just don't think in literal terms.

 

Life for me holds much more colour with out everything being set in stone.

ATB mate

"I think the bible is there to be studied and a lot can be learned from it........just don't think in literal terms.".......

 

Yip that's how I think it should be thought of. Unlike Frazdog who believes a 500 year old man actually did build an ark.

[dare 1,103]

I'm not very clever mate so my definition of evolution is that billions of years ago my ancestor was a newt and over the years it turned in me ?..........that is my understanding of the basic premise.

Lol post reminded me of that old fat boy slim tune with the video

[gnasher16 30,222]

To me science seems to have a language all of its own that doesnt apply to anything else......when the reality of a scientific fact is something that " probably happened " it amuses me when you hear somebody call folk blinkered and brainwashed for believing in God....not to mention ignorant

 

Personally i cant see why God and science cant co - exist....i dont see why its not feasible to believe God created everything to evolve into what it is today knowing that the best way to make life was to create something and then let it shape itself over billions of years.....To me the Bible dont need to be authenticated because its the most important book in history written with Gods inspiration not his hand.

Edited September 9, 2014 by gnasher16

[Born Hunter 17,783]

To me science seems to have a language all of its own that doesnt apply to anything else......when the reality of a scientific fact is something that " probably happened " it amuses me when you hear somebody call folk blinkered and brainwashed for believing in God....not to mention ignorant

 

Personally i cant see why God and science cant co - exist....i dont see why its not feasible to believe God created everything to evolve into what it is today knowing that the best way to make life was to create something and then let it shape itself over billions of years.....To me the Bible dont need to be authenticated because its the most important book in history written with Gods inspiration not his hand.

 

Science fact is something that has been observed, like an apple falling from a tree. Evolution in the sense that biological populations are capable of adapting their genetics to better suit an environment is also a scientific fact which has been observed. The Theory of Evolution in the sense that all life on Earth has evolved from the most simple organism is a theory, not a fact. We did not observe this entire event so cannot treat it as fact. The reason it's treated by many as a fact is because it holds superior credibility to other ideas because logical predictions have been made from it and later found. Creation in the Biblical sense can't claim that.

 

Science does'nt have it's own language as such, it follows simple logical thought, that's all. That applies to everything, other than blind faith. Nothing unique or mysterious about any of it. Anybody can follow it if they have the curiosity to sit down and bother, most don't. I don't see anybody questioning technologicaly useful theories like Special Relitivity, Newtonian Mechanics etc etc. They're just as open to ridicule, they're 'only' theories after all...... yet nobody does because they are considered such credible theories from the usefulness of the predictions they make that anybody that suddenly started behaving the way the anti evolution lot do would look a complete fool.

 

Nothing in science fucks the existence of a God, so not sure where that has come from.

[frazdog 252]

tell me this how come the bible tells you thousands of years ago the earth is circle

 

have a think about it

 

when atheists scientists said it was flat

 

here couple egs

plenty more

Psalm 104:5

ESV / 3 helpful votes

He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

1 Kings 7:26

ESV / 3 helpful votes

Its thickness was a handbreadth, and its brim was made like the brim of a cup, like the flower of a lily. It held two thousand baths.

Joshua 4:1-24

ESV / 3 helpful votes

When all the nation had finished passing over the Jordan, the Lord said to Joshua, Take twelve men from the people, from each tribe a man, and command them, saying, Take twelve stones from here out of the midst of the Jordan, from the very place where the priests' feet stood firmly, and bring them over with you and lay them down in the place where you lodge tonight. Then Joshua called the twelve men from the people of Israel, whom he had appointed, a man from each tribe. And Joshua said to them, Pass on before the ark of the Lordyour God into the midst of the Jordan, and take up each of you a stone upon his shoulder, according to the number of the tribes of the people of Israel,

Revelation 7:1

ESV / 2 helpful votes

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.

Amos 5:8

ESV / 2 helpful votes

He who made the Pleiades and Orion, and turns deep darkness into the morning and darkens the day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the surface of the earth, the Lord is his name;

Isaiah 11:12

ESV / 2 helpful votes

He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Helpful Not HelpfulExodus 20:3

ESV / 2 helpful votes

You shall have no other gods before me.

Job 26:10

ESV / 5 helpful votes

He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

Job 26:7

ESV / 4 helpful votes

b 26:10

ESV / 5 helpful votes

He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light

ob 38:15 "The earth takes shape like clay under a seal."

King James Bible

 

"It is" he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof "are" as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

[frazdog 252]

top couple quotes not related pasted by acceident

 

bottom few

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.

 

Edited September 9, 2014 by Flipper_Al

[gnasher16 30,222]

The reason it's treated by many as a fact is because it holds superior credibility to other ideas because logical predictions have been made from it and later found. Creation in the Biblical sense can't claim that.

 

So if we dont like options a,b and c..... we can call option d a fact because we like that more than the others........and thats not blind faith ....i love it ......if only life was actually like that !

[Born Hunter 17,783]

 

The reason it's treated by many as a fact is because it holds superior credibility to other ideas because logical predictions have been made from it and later found. Creation in the Biblical sense can't claim that.

 

So if we dont like options a,b and c..... we can call option d a fact because we like that more than the others........and thats not blind faith ....i love it ......if only life was actually like that !

I didn't say that, I was explaining why some people are miss lead in what they term facts. But you crack on trivialising mainstream science as "what people like", lol. Science isn't a mindless popularity contest. Like I said, ridicule all of science, evolution isn't unique in how it has become mainstream. I guess gravity is caused by the strong arm of invisible gnomes pulling? Equally credible right? LOL

 

I've heard it all know, science is simply what people like... f**k all to do with observations and testing. Well that's made my job a lot easier.

[Born Hunter 17,783]

It's a miracle really that we managed to calculate the time differences in satellite data transmission based on the theory of how and why time slows down for fast moving objects when we just picked the idea out of a hat and ran with it. Blind faith eh?

[shepp 2,285]

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.

 

Well that proves it then, the earth is flat and also square :-)