farmerkev09 105 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Got a knock at the door this morning from the rspca and a police officer both of them I wouldn't give a minute of my time but seeing it involves me I asked them in. After a good half hour discussion on the fact my 2 guard dogs have worried a woman and her dog as they had both front paws on front gate barking and there's a bridle way in front of the farm. Well I just laughed in the knowing they couldn't do anything but I soon shut up as there's a new law change on the 1975 guard dog act stating no guard dog on private land can worry or attack and person or other dog. It's just not been thought through what is this country coming to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,963 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 well I think its a good thing , the amount of times ive walked past farms etc. on a public path(bridle path) and had fookin dogs from farms come out at you trying bite you , deff needs changing either lock them up or chain the bloody things, the last time one went for my pup I put strong stick across its muzzle , and my dogs were on a lead under control, them twats weren't .!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 i wouldn't class a dog, stood at a gate, barking as worrying. Its just being a bloody dog! If the dogs had jumped the gate and "harassed" somebody, then I can see why they would put in a complaint. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 So if somebody breaks into your property and your dog bites them you can be done. Sounds like a brilliant law. Guard dogs are now redundant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 My place is right out the way with a bridle path running along the front and the amount of prats walking theyre dogs past and stopping to have a look is a joke my dogs kept inside but on the odd occasion it has managed to get out if a minge hit it with a stick I would break the stick over his head bridle path or not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Public footpaths and bridleways are just that for the use of the public the owner of the land either side is private ownership a dog barking and protecting its residence is natural instinct. most dogs dont need to be a guard dog to do it. Ok clamp down on the macho slap heads parading status symbols around on big chains the dogs probably have higher IQ.s than them but a dog protecting private property is that wrong. ? A police dog on duty is used to intimidate the public if released it will bite anyone in the vicinity are they considered dangerous under this new law? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 So if somebody breaks into your property and your dog bites them you can be done. Sounds like a brilliant law. Guard dogs are now redundant. No, if they're trespassing on your property the new laws about dogs being out of control on private property don't apply as far as I'm aware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ah that's what they were after due to the kid who got killed not that far from me. So pressumed it had gone through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,686 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 but I soon shut up as there's a new law change on the 1975 guard dog act stating no guard dog on private land can worry or attack and person or other dog. It's just not been thought through what is this country If that's true a dog cannot attack on PRIVATE property ,then best way to get round it is have one of those big Turkish / Russian flock guards and muzzle it,with a fabric muzzle so it can pin the person down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 That can't be right surely? Someone comes onto your property and the dog you have to protect the place bites them and your in the wrong for it? Don't have a gaurd dog myself but if I had a guard dog and it didnt do its job it'll be culled. Is a difference between a out of control dog terrorising the public and a dog doing its job. Guess if you buy a guard dog you also better have kenny noyes lawyers number handy lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,963 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ah that's what they were after due to the kid who got killed not that far from me. So pressumed it had gone through. and that's what the law trying to stop in the 1st place, a young family by me were walking with there 2 kids and little cavalier/spannel , when a big gsd came out from smallholding which ran in front of the bridle path ,and grabbed the little dog. the owner of the c/s got bit on the hand trying to pull the gsd off. the owner of the gsd were not there when it attacked, so the dog was not under control, its as simple as that you carnt have any dog loose on your property or not. if a dog just barks well its not a prob as its doing its job, but if it bites a person its out of control, its not a police dog , that even then still as its handler with it 98% of the time . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 My place is right out the way with a bridle path running along the front and the amount of prats walking theyre dogs past and stopping to have a look is a joke my dogs kept inside but on the odd occasion it has managed to get out if a minge hit it with a stick I would break the stick over his head bridle path or not I think the point is if your dog came flying out looking to bite either the person walking or attack the other persons dog. I doubt anyone would hit your dog cause it just happens to be there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Westy76 546 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 This is the new amendments to the DDA law that came in this May,worth looking at if your not familiar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Can't quote bird as I'm on my phone. The girl in question was in the house not outside. The change in law won't stop idiots keeping dogs or not looking after them but I still think its wrong. If some burgler/murderer etc climbs through your kitchen window while your all in bed asleep and your dog/s scrag him about that's instant justice for me and the dog or the owner shouldn't suffer at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,173 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 The way I see this new law is that it will be open to all sorts of crazy claims. For example, I live in a quiet cul-de-sac, sometimes in summer we get 'tourists' wandering up the lane. Our dogs are behind a six foot solid fence and door gate: they can't be seen, and the lane is about 12 feet away, across my front lawn, but what if some nosey person comes on to our front lawn and tries the gate? The dogs kick off big time, and some have barks that sound truly scary, so that person could say that they had been 'worried' by the noise and get the idea that they were being 'attacked' through the fence ... what then? Are dogs not allowed to bark any more when they see/hear a stranger close to their property? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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