Patterdale Vs Jagdterrier Pros And Cons

[Minkenry 1,044]

My buddy Cade Pocock is looking at getting a new working terrier, and he's got a couple options in front of him. All of the options he is considering are from hard working proven stock. He's buying from the best of the best breeders available, and he'll be flying his dog to him from halfway across the country. He really wants to make sure that this time he gets the dog he's looking for (if you didn't read my last post, he had a Decker working terrier that was so far from game it isn't even funny).

 

The options Cade has before him are a litter of Patterdales, a Jagdterrier litter, and a litter of mixed blood pups that have both breeds in it.

 

We are curious as to the pros and cons of these two different breeds. No breed is perfect, and no dog can do everything. We just want to hear your opinions on the two different breeds. I know there is no "best dog" as what is "best" comes down to both circumstance and opinion. What we would like to know are the strengths and weaknesses the two breeds possess when compared to each other.

 

These are my friend Cade's goals with his future working terrier.....

 

He would like to hunt raccoons, both tracking them down and treeing them, and perusing them in irrigation pipes and in underground burrows. So a dog that can both track and go to earth is necessary.

 

He would also like to hunt fox, so yet another reason he needs a dog that can work underground in tight spaces.

 

He would also like to hunt rats and squirrels along side his hunting mink. It doesn't take much to find a dog that will catch and kill flushed rats and squirrels, but the dog will need to be trainable enough to keep it from also killing the mink.

 

 

So what are your opinions on the pros and cons of the two breeds we are considering to use for these purposes?

Edited September 1, 2014 by Minkenry

[Mixedgrill 704]

You need a robot

[dymented 2,220]

both terriers will do all you require patterdales don't work off as far as jagads i find that the jagds give voice when on a sent as well so its down to how far off you want them to work bud

[AXUM 255]

mix patt x jagd.. you get nose for tracking and they are silent. but i would say more of a jagd.

[Bossie 90]

Would depend on how big the jagds are. They can be quite large, which doesn't make earth work easier. imho the jagd is the more versatile dog, giving tongue, tracking, baying, catching, retrieving. Can be excellent guard dogs as well.

If (big if!!) you are able to find one which isn't over sized, is mentally sound and you put in a great deal of work you can have a very nice allround hunting companion. You could also end up with an unstable, unsound sociopath.

One of my dogs is half about 40% DJT/ 25% fell 25% JRT and some bedlington thrown in the mix several generations back. Very nice dog to work with, high drive, medium ranging.

[Blaise 2,322]

According to me, qualities and weaknesses depend more from line than from race.

I owned and used both, patterdales and jagds, on earth and underground. Both are very good dogs.

Jagd works speedy, with more voice. They give voice on scent easily. Some lines are easy to educate (german way). But the great part of european lines have too bite to work underground. Too much killers for me

Patterdales are great workers, strong and tenacious. Better in huge dens if they have to work alone during 4 or 5 hours. Sometimes, patterdales have weak voice. The patterdale mental is better, concentrated on work.

Be careful, it's an opinion from my experience, specialy from badger hunting. No more.

[Bossie 90]

Why not a JRT or a teckel?

Me personally, I'd take a bayer over a mixer/hard dog every day. But that's just my preference based on legislation, work, ground, money etc.

[little hedz 118]

Never seen a jagd work so f**k knows i always look at whart the parents of a pup are doing and how they work and what they work to find what i need i dont look at breeds

[Bryan 1,362]

From what I've read on the internet Jadg terriers could fly helicopters if allowed.

[pablo esc 1,598]

Both of the breeds can do what your out for, the jagds are tall and fairly tough, and also bark, and hunting dog. The Patterdale, would have it all, and also mark and climb a tree, and gameness. Breaking to mink, don't know if that works with a good un

[pitdawg913 27]

Silly Bryan.... Not just fly them but also aid in designing them!

[DavidR 24]

If your friend is buying the dogs, he has already made his first mistake, but I would choose the patterdale over the Jag.

[Kingkongsfinger 5]

Why not go for a mix of the 2 breeds?

[Cleanspade 3,322]

a good jr. will do all these things. from what ive seen a jagd would also but can you be sure it will be small enough for underground fox?. patts will also do most of what you want but tend to be hard. and quieter workers. crossbreds are generally an unknown quantity, and its a waiting game to see what you have. if you can be sure of a handy sized jagd then that would be my choice. after a good well bred russell of course

[Mosby 355]

Not harm the mink?