Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't think UKIP is seen as a relevant political force in Scotland ! Perhaps it will become 1 after a few years of the 24,000 immigrants a year the SNP want to let in thats if the snp win after a yes vote... labour for indy reckon labour in scotland will return to the party of old, for the working man, no more right wing shite... either way, scotland gets who we vote for.... only twice in 100 years has a scottish vote influenced the general election What and you think the labour party, the 1s who started the mass immigration mess would curb the numbers coming in to an independant Scotland, between them and the eu Scotland will be swamped with immigrants. Strange theres been no mention of immigration by Darling (labour) or Salmond (snp) probably because they both support mass immigration Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) LMAO every shower of shite we have had in power over the last 20 years has been a Jock So on you fuuckin go and keep the war mongering, money grabbing, public fund wasting cnuts :laugh: :laugh: Economically you're fuucked you negate on the debt that you owe and not one single feckin bank in the world will lend to your economy! Jesus Scotland would struggle to get a loan shark to stump up a tenner at 6,000,000,000 % interest compound a day (That's six billion for all the Jocks reading this) oil is 15% of scotlands gdp, 20% in norway. without oil scotlands gdp is 99% match of uk by international law, scotland cant default on a debt thats no theres, its signed in uk name... however we are offering to take on our share if uk share assets... thats why the uk wont say no to currency union because it would blow a 40 billion hole on balence of payments and 500 plus million in trade costs.. massive debt etc etc,plus more standard and poors have already said scotland would qualify for top credit rating, whats the uks current downgraded rating? Edited August 26, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) SNP are socialists and socialists are economic illiterates they will bankrupt the country no if or buts ..... Edited August 26, 2014 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 SNP are socialists and socialists are economic illiterates they will bankrupt the country no if or buts ..... whats the uk debt, 1... trillion, running at about a 120 billion loss? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cammy12 176 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Salmond kicked his arse, vote ukip and come out eu when that happens your precious finical power houses have already made contingency plans for moving to ireland as London wont be in the free market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 LMAO every shower of shite we have had in power over the last 20 years has been a Jock So on you fuuckin go and keep the war mongering, money grabbing, public fund wasting cnuts :laugh: :laugh: Economically you're fuucked you negate on the debt that you owe and not one single feckin bank in the world will lend to your economy! Jesus Scotland would struggle to get a loan shark to stump up a tenner at 6,000,000,000 % interest compound a day (That's six billion for all the Jocks reading this) That's 6 American billion. Whatever happened to the good old British billion (1,000,000,000,000) ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,960 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 LMAO every shower of shite we have had in power over the last 20 years has been a Jock So on you fuuckin go and keep the war mongering, money grabbing, public fund wasting cnuts :laugh: :laugh: Economically you're fuucked you negate on the debt that you owe and not one single feckin bank in the world will lend to your economy! Jesus Scotland would struggle to get a loan shark to stump up a tenner at 6,000,000,000 % interest compound a day (That's six billion for all the Jocks reading this) That's 6 American billion. Whatever happened to the good old British billion (1,000,000,000,000) ?Lol yep bloody embarrassed lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RossM 8,119 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Question? Where are you at this precise moment shroom? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 LMAO every shower of shite we have had in power over the last 20 years has been a Jock So on you fuuckin go and keep the war mongering, money grabbing, public fund wasting cnuts :laugh: :laugh: Economically you're fuucked you negate on the debt that you owe and not one single feckin bank in the world will lend to your economy! Jesus Scotland would struggle to get a loan shark to stump up a tenner at 6,000,000,000 % interest compound a day (That's six billion for all the Jocks reading this) oil is 15% of scotlands gdp, 20% in norway. without oil scotlands gdp is 99% match of uk by international law, scotland cant default on a debt thats no theres, its signed in uk name... however we are offering to take on our share if uk share assets... thats why the uk wont say no to currency union because it would blow a 40 billion hole on balence of payments and 500 plus million in trade costs.. massive debt etc etc,plus more standard and poors have already said scotland would qualify for top credit rating, whats the uks current downgraded rating? Of course Scotland can renage on it's debt, just as a private person can renage on his mortgage, credit cards, etc; and what happens to that person ? They are black listed, denied credit, except at extortionate rates, and ultimately made bankrupt. It's no different for a country that renages on it's debt. The rest of the UK, (England), would probably take up Scotlands share of the debt, as they have already said they would, but then the fun would start, The UK would have a veto on Scotlands membership of such organisations as NATO, the EU, the IMF, World Bank, to name just a few. Salmond would be playing a very dangerous game if he renaged on Scotlands share of the debt. By the way, I don't have a dog in this fight, it makes no difference to me if Scotland votes yes or no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) LMAO every shower of shite we have had in power over the last 20 years has been a Jock So on you fuuckin go and keep the war mongering, money grabbing, public fund wasting cnuts :laugh: :laugh: Economically you're fuucked you negate on the debt that you owe and not one single feckin bank in the world will lend to your economy! Jesus Scotland would struggle to get a loan shark to stump up a tenner at 6,000,000,000 % interest compound a day (That's six billion for all the Jocks reading this) oil is 15% of scotlands gdp, 20% in norway. without oil scotlands gdp is 99% match of uk by international law, scotland cant default on a debt thats no theres, its signed in uk name... however we are offering to take on our share if uk share assets... thats why the uk wont say no to currency union because it would blow a 40 billion hole on balence of payments and 500 plus million in trade costs.. massive debt etc etc,plus more standard and poors have already said scotland would qualify for top credit rating, whats the uks current downgraded rating? Of course Scotland can renage on it's debt, just as a private person can renage on his mortgage, credit cards, etc; and what happens to that person ? They are black listed, denied credit, except at extortionate rates, and ultimately made bankrupt. It's no different for a country that renages on it's debt. The rest of the UK, (England), would probably take up Scotlands share of the debt, as they have already said they would, but then the fun would start, The UK would have a veto on Scotlands membership of such organisations as NATO, the EU, the IMF, World Bank, to name just a few. Salmond would be playing a very dangerous game if he renaged on Scotlands share of the debt. By the way, I don't have a dog in this fight, it makes no difference to me if Scotland votes yes or no. international law says scotland cant default on a debt thats not theres...so how can scotland be black listed... if scotland gets its fair share of assets it takes its fair share of debt, fairs fair.. david cameron has already said he would back scotland joining... he also signed the edinburgh agreement... Edited August 26, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,089 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 What to do anything would be better than these public schoolboy torry privatizing arrogant pricks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Joe, you are confusing what Salmond said would be his reason for defaulting on Scotland's share of the debt; he said they would default if rUK didn't agree to a monetary union, nothing to do with division of assets. He said it again last night. Why on earth would an independent Scotland want their interest rates and monetary policy be set by a foreign entity, the Bank of England ? Also, all the major UK parties have said it will not happen, any Prime minister would never agree to being the lender of last resort to s foreign country, it would be political suicide. Why won't Salmond let Scotland have it's own currency and central bank ? Why does he want to remain tied to the UK by monetary union ? A strange sort of independence that would be ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnighthunter 78 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 England seem very determent to hang on to us why Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,960 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Question? Where are you at this precise moment shroom? Barcelona and yes I still vote in the UK and not here Tell you what ladies, jog on and watch the disaster unfold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 England seem very determent to hang on to us why Because the Labour Party need your Scottish MPs if they are to ever form a government again, and the Tories full name is The Conservative And Unionist Party, so losing Scotland would would be a huge blow to them, and Cameron would certainly have to resign and be known forever as the P M who lost the Union. You'll probably find that most normal English people either couldn't care less or would happily see an independent Scotland. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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