Scottish

[Lab 10,979]

As I said before, they are voting for an idea not a well thought out plan mate

I honestly believe it is a well thought out plan though. It's politics so there will always be teething problems but on the whole I really think it will be the best for Scotland.

All the bad points being highlighted are also 'maybes'....not many, if any facts from the No campaign that make me want to say No. Westminster are trying there best to keep us and that in my eyes speaks volumes mate.

[WILF 47,353]

Fair play Lab, but there is no getting away from the fact that 8 days out you don't have a currency !!!

You don't have an army or navy or airforce

You have no idea what your currency (when you decide what it is) will be worth

 

All pretty major stuff wouldn't you say mate ?

 

Everyone realises that we are stronger together, it's a no brainer pal.

 

You will be non EU so you won't be able to just pop over the border or do some work or anything like that.

 

I mean this is no joke matey

[Born Hunter 17,788]

LOL, so it turns out that Salmond has compared the vote to South Africas vote that ended Apartheid........

 

I'd be f***ing embarassed to be associated with the weasle!

[Joe1888 672]

id say so, hes not been first minister for the 40 plus years hes been doing this

 

we will be using the pound either way, id put everything on it, currency union with debt or without

 

pat cox, ex president of the european parliment is the latest to say scotland will be in the eu

[The one 8,493]

Wee fat eck only has one plan the oil revenue will fund everything , if he doesn't get the revenue hes fecked . say we do get independence with no army or border patrols we are going to be a hot spot for every immigrant thats at France etc they could enter Scotland and gain access to england that way in two years we would be knee deep in them

[Joe1888 672]

Wee fat eck only has one plan the oil revenue will fund everything , if he doesn't get the revenue hes fecked . say we do get independence with no army or border patrols we are going to be a hot spot for every immigrant thats at France etc they could enter Scotland and gain access to england that way in two years we would be knee deep in them

oil counts for 15% mate, norway is what 20/25%... we have alot of oil left, more than 100 year

 

 

 

you talk about taxes and benefits etc what about the £126 a second scotland pays for debt it didnt take out or need, at nearly 74.000,000,000 at this post,

 

scotland pays billions for trident, for high speed railway for down south, house of lords/west minister, fake wars and more, good savings could be made there...

 

whats the border like between ireland and the north?

 

we will have a good enough army for a small nation, just not the army or tools westminster want to try be a player on world stage

Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888

[Born Hunter 17,788]

 

oil counts for 15% mate, norway is what 20/25%... we have alot of oil left, more than 100 year

 

 

Just to point out, Shetland and Orkneys have a rightful claim to nearly 70% of that. So if they leave you will loose 10% of your GDP straight away. But 10% is neither here nor there eh. LOL.

 

I'd also guess that the percentage of GDP that oil represents will increase in years to comes as it becomes more expensive to recover.

[Joe1888 672]

 

oil counts for 15% mate, norway is what 20/25%... we have alot of oil left, more than 100 year

Just to point out, Shetland and Orkneys have a rightful claim to nearly 70% of that. So if they leave you will loose 10% of your GDP straight away. But 10% is neither here nor there eh. LOL.

 

I'd also guess that the percentage of GDP that oil represents will increase in years to comes as it becomes more expensive to recover.

 

thats a debate for another, time will tell... a new/better scotland or a broken union... you can try pull out all the negative stuff you like, i thought by now, no and other would realise it doesnt work

 

i was going to edit post above: scotland has 1 % population of euro, 20% fishing in euro, 25% renewable, 60% oil, another reason why we will get in

 

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as it gets more expensive, the price will probaly rise?? oil boom on the way

Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888

[Born Hunter 17,788]

 

 

oil counts for 15% mate, norway is what 20/25%... we have alot of oil left, more than 100 year

Just to point out, Shetland and Orkneys have a rightful claim to nearly 70% of that. So if they leave you will loose 10% of your GDP straight away. But 10% is neither here nor there eh. LOL.

 

I'd also guess that the percentage of GDP that oil represents will increase in years to comes as it becomes more expensive to recover.

 

thats a debate for another, time will tell... a new/better scotland or a broken union... you can try pull out all the negative stuff you like, i thought by now, no another others would realise it doesnt work

 

i was going to edit post above: scotland has 1 % population of euro, 20% fishing in euro, 25% renewable, 60% oil, another reason why we will get in

 

 

Aye the fine details are debateable but the rough figure is there. And it's not for another day Joe, because it IS going to be a consiquence of your vote. You know as well as I do the Shetlanders and Orcadians hate an independant Scotland and much prefer the Union. So, the way things stand you look like you will loose 10% of your current GDP as a result of YES.

[Joe1888 672]

 

 

 

oil counts for 15% mate, norway is what 20/25%... we have alot of oil left, more than 100 year

Just to point out, Shetland and Orkneys have a rightful claim to nearly 70% of that. So if they leave you will loose 10% of your GDP straight away. But 10% is neither here nor there eh. LOL.

 

I'd also guess that the percentage of GDP that oil represents will increase in years to comes as it becomes more expensive to recover.

 

thats a debate for another, time will tell... a new/better scotland or a broken union... you can try pull out all the negative stuff you like, i thought by now, no another others would realise it doesnt work

 

i was going to edit post above: scotland has 1 % population of euro, 20% fishing in euro, 25% renewable, 60% oil, another reason why we will get in

 

Aye the fine details are debateable but the rough figure is there. And it's not for another day Joe, because it IS going to be a consiquence of your vote. You know as well as I do the Shetlanders and Orcadians hate an independant Scotland and much prefer the Union. So, the way things stand you look like you will loose 10% of your current GDP as a result of YES.

 

lets see how they vote, alot has changed in recent months

Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888

[Born Hunter 17,788]

 

Aye the fine details are debateable but the rough figure is there. And it's not for another day Joe, because it IS going to be a consiquence of your vote. You know as well as I do the Shetlanders and Orcadians hate an independant Scotland and much prefer the Union. So, the way things stand you look like you will loose 10% of your current GDP as a result of YES.

 

lets see how they vote, alot has changed on recent months

 

 

Bit late by then though isn't it? But that's been the recurring tactical response of team YES all along........ "all these people with control over our future are lying to us, you wait and see". LOL LOL.

 

You're taking a big gamble and you know it.

[Lab 10,979]

Fair play Lab, but there is no getting away from the fact that 8 days out you don't have a currency !!!

You don't have an army or navy or airforce

You have no idea what your currency (when you decide what it is) will be worth

 

All pretty major stuff wouldn't you say mate ?

 

Everyone realises that we are stronger together, it's a no brainer pal.

 

You will be non EU so you won't be able to just pop over the border or do some work or anything like that.

 

I mean this is no joke matey

In all honestly mate I can't answer your questions.....I'm putting my trust in far more intelligent people than me. Yes some of them are politicians and that is worrying but some are normal everyday people with high class standings quite content in saying we can do this and not to be afraid.

Or do I vote no and plod along as we are watching lots of money getting squandered on rubbish. I could tell you right now, hand on heart if I felt the UK was being run in the right way I would vote No on the 18th. But you know and I know the country is being run by a bunch of bams who couldn't care less about aspects of life that are close to me/you.

Ive made my mind up and I doubt it will be changed by the 18th.

I understand all the concerns but that's me finished on the subject. ?

[Joe1888 672]

 

 

Aye the fine details are debateable but the rough figure is there. And it's not for another day Joe, because it IS going to be a consiquence of your vote. You know as well as I do the Shetlanders and Orcadians hate an independant Scotland and much prefer the Union. So, the way things stand you look like you will loose 10% of your current GDP as a result of YES.

lets see how they vote, alot has changed on recent months

 

Bit late by then though isn't it? But that's been the recurring tactical response of team YES all along........ "all these people with control over our future are lying to us, you wait and see". LOL LOL.

 

You're taking a big gamble and you know it.

 

 

no because i believe when faced with the difference of how scotland will change for good and how the uk is/has been, that will be enough for most of them and most of scots

Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888

[Born Hunter 17,788]

 

no because i believe when faced with the difference of how scotland will change for good and how the uk is/has been, that will be enough for most of them and most of scots

 

 

Fingers crossed eh........ the motto of YES!

[shepp 2,285]

 

 

 

 

 

Yous keeping trying to scare a no vote, like no campaign. Scots can see past it.. Whats the risk of staying in union???? How's the nhs down south

 

The uk is the 4th most unequal country in the developed world..

Joe, I'm sure you are aware that the NHS in Scotland is already devolved to the Scottish parliament. Salmond is bare faced lying when he says Westminster will privatise the NHS in Scotland...... Only Salmond and the Scottish parliament have the power to do that.

 

Its well explained what the risk is, how it will effect the nhs... nice try

What do you mean, nice try ? I'm right, and if you are as informed as you think, then you'll know I am.

 

with the nhs rapidly getting privatised down south, so far the scottish gov has protected the nhs, even with the previous cuts to the budget.. as long as we are part of the uk scotlands budget is decided by the uk gov, even though we make enough to pay for current services. all big parties are on record saying more cuts are on the way. cuts to the english nhs through being privatised will also lead to cuts up here.. the only way to make sure the nhs is safe is by voting yes

 

its a similar story to improved childcare the scottish gov would implement, they have the powers at the moment but the taxes generated from it would flow straight to westminister instead of scotland... scotland wouldnt see any of it, there for couldnt aford it under the uk gov setup

 

scotland has 7% control of £, lets make it 100%

In reality mate you and us are the same, in as much as we can't afford any of it, we can not even afford to pay the interest on the national debt each year.

The difference between the interest we can afford to pay and the interest owed is the deficit.

Most of the bail out was to Scottish banks, but as a union we all shared the debt.

Short memories the Scottish.

I notice the Irish are big enough to appreciate the help given and will often say as much.