Brigzy 1,298 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Joe, whenever I , or anyone else asks you a question, you ALLWAYS give a politicians answer, either quote someone else or accuse them, as you did with me, of saying something that they never said ! I'll ask you again; where will all these immigrants come from ? Do you really think the cream of Japan, Australia, USA, Germany, etc, will come to a new country on the promises of the likes of Salmond..... Or will the dregs of Europe and the rest of the world flock to Salmonds Socialist Repuplic ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 joe what go you think it will bring to scotland with out all the pasting short please is it a proud thing ? People at the lower end of the ladder will get fairer deal, a more fair country Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Scottish nationalism is civic lefty nationalism. Upto now you have been sheltered from immigration as the vast majority have been soaked up by England, salmond has said he wants more immigrants and with independence you will get that. You will jump out of one union and straight into the eu so not really independence. A positive of a yes vote would mean a few million lefty voters gone and a decent swing to the right in England. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,089 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 joe what go you think it will bring to scotland with out all the pasting short please is it a proud thing ? People at the lower end of the ladder will get fairer deal, a more fair country WHAT people on benifets ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Joe, whenever I , or anyone else asks you a question, you ALLWAYS give a politicians answer, either quote someone else or accuse them, as you did with me, of saying something that they never said ! I'll ask you again; where will all these immigrants come from ? Do you really think the cream of Japan, Australia, USA, Germany, etc, will come to a new country on the promises of the likes of Salmond..... Or will the dregs of Europe and the rest of the world flock to Salmonds Socialist Repuplic ? If we have full powers, we can improve job opportunities for the 30,000 young people who leave scotland each year for work, focuss keeping scots would be a start. Then i see no reason for the cream of the countries mentioned wanting to work in scotland.. You think we only have oil? George osborne said if scotland got the choice to vote inward investment would drop in scotland ( another scare story) , after london, scotland got the highest levels up on the previous year.. its also a fact that inward investment in new independent countries has been high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,089 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 joe what is your line of work ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) joe what go you think it will bring to scotland with out all the pasting short please is it a proud thing ? People at the lower end of the ladder will get fairer deal, a more fair country WHAT people on benifets ? Yes and no lol, the average scottish person.. Its also fact that most people on benifts also work... See the price of everything goes up and the minimum wage stays as it is under uk gov Pensions will improve also, childcare and more Theres also the risk to stuff we use, scotlands pays for but the planed cuts from torys/ also agreed by labour will put them at risk Edited September 6, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Joe, whenever I , or anyone else asks you a question, you ALLWAYS give a politicians answer, either quote someone else or accuse them, as you did with me, of saying something that they never said ! I'll ask you again; where will all these immigrants come from ? Do you really think the cream of Japan, Australia, USA, Germany, etc, will come to a new country on the promises of the likes of Salmond..... Or will the dregs of Europe and the rest of the world flock to Salmonds Socialist Repuplic ? If we have full powers, we can improve job opportunities for the 30,000 young people who leave scotland each year for work, focuss keeping scots would be a start. Then i see no reason for the cream of the countries mentioned wanting to work in scotland.. You think we only have oil? George osborne said if scotland got the choice to vote inward investment would drop in scotland ( another scare story) , after london, scotland got the highest levels up on the previous year.. its also a fact that inward investment in new independent countries has been high. Once again, a politicians answer, and not an answer to my question. Joe, I admire your dogged determination , and I'm not your enemy or adversary. BUT, I am beginning to think you are a political troll, who only speaks the party line. Debate,and yes, even argument are good and needed in something as momentous as the break up of the UK, but you only talk the party line and quote pro independence rhetoric; nothing seems to come from your heart. Whatever the outcome of the vote, I wish you and Scotland well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Joe, whenever I , or anyone else asks you a question, you ALLWAYS give a politicians answer, either quote someone else or accuse them, as you did with me, of saying something that they never said ! I'll ask you again; where will all these immigrants come from ? Do you really think the cream of Japan, Australia, USA, Germany, etc, will come to a new country on the promises of the likes of Salmond..... Or will the dregs of Europe and the rest of the world flock to Salmonds Socialist Repuplic ? If we have full powers, we can improve job opportunities for the 30,000 young people who leave scotland each year for work, focuss keeping scots would be a start. Then i see no reason for the cream of the countries mentioned wanting to work in scotland.. You think we only have oil? George osborne said if scotland got the choice to vote inward investment would drop in scotland ( another scare story) , after london, scotland got the highest levels up on the previous year.. its also a fact that inward investment in new independent countries has been high. Once again, a politicians answer, and not an answer to my question. Joe, I admire your dogged determination , and I'm not your enemy or adversary. BUT, I am beginning to think you are a political troll, who only speaks the party line. Debate,and yes, even argument are good and needed in something as momentous as the break up of the UK, but you only talk the party line and quote pro independence rhetoric; nothing seems to come from your heart. Whatever the outcome of the vote, I wish you and Scotland well. disapointed i come across as a troll, hopefully the members ive met in person dont agree.. though i might look like one lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnighthunter 78 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 joe what is your line of work ? politician Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,089 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 joe do not think we will end up like southern ireland and pay more for food etc with independence ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) am unemployed at the moment, previous work, a scrap man, driving heavy plant machines, courier, labourer, and diy mechanic.. some might say a bum!! Edited September 6, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 joe what go you think it will bring to scotland with out all the pasting short please is it a proud thing ? People at the lower end of the ladder will get fairer deal, a more fair country So there we have it Joe hasnt maybe been as successful as he would of liked on maybe a few fronts so blames nasty old England and the Union Joe try harder in the Beautiful Proud Country you already have Because if the Vote is Yes its going to get a lot worse There be no Free Perscriptions or Free Uni Places within a Decade, Probably sooner And with in 20 years there will be fecking loads of Ginger Hair sticking out the sides of a Burkha. and i get called a troll? am putting my best effort into most posts, id say my heart, say what you will.. this is important!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,089 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 joe i work hard for my money and not willing to pay more tax to pay lazy feckers more money which i think will happen if we get independence ive worked since i left school in the 70s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) joe i work hard for my money and not willing to pay more tax to pay lazy feckers more money which i think will happen if we get independence ive worked since i left school in the 70s i know, ive seen your other posts mate i know we can afford the stuff we have at moment, remove trident, and the other stuff we pay for down south then why would taxes need to rise?? i honestly believe they wont.. i aint anti english etc etc, i just believe its time for change, we have tried the other options. ill take a break now, as (said) troll posts will lead to one thing only for me. Edited September 6, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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