Scottish

[Joe1888 672]

the bigger picture is the uk is broke, has been for a long time. time for change, time to learn from mistakes, time to put scotland first

 

lets be clear the scottish gov wants to put in place a immigration policy that helps tackle skills shortages and jobs filled... it wont just open the gates to everyone, uni places droped because of westminister, if the snp are voted in after yes then they will still have things in place to tackle immigration, just handle it different from uk.. as we dont have the same problem!!!!

 

 

how about something positive to stay in the uk, not another scare story!

Edited September 6, 2014 by Joe1888

[nothernlite 18,089]

if they can contribute i dont care, those who come over and do well in our unis are a good start.. if one was saving a family members life in hospital would you mind?? how many scots have to leave to find work, some because of westminister?

once they start doing jobs cheaper as they are doing already think you might care maybe not your line of work but there fecking up the building trade which is mine and many more

[Joe1888 672]

 

 

To make good on his promises, Salmond needs to massively increase the population and tax base of Scotland. He has said he will do this by immigration..... He'll turn Scotland into a country based on Tower Hamlets, where the indigenous population will subjugated to the Muslim influx, and your law will be based on Sharia...... Please think well before you vote.

 

 

SHITE!! do you still think uk subsidises scotland?

 

scotland doesnt have the immigration problem uk has... at the moment people come over to uni then are sent packing ( am sure) no harm in them staying if they will contribute...

 

not long to go

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbW_AT64m8E

 

 

 

240,000 immigrants a year, Salmonds own words

 

 

 

if the snp are voted in after a yes vote... theres alot of talk about support for labour for indy after yes... the labour of old for the working man

[Joe1888 672]

 

if they can contribute i dont care, those who come over and do well in our unis are a good start.. if one was saving a family members life in hospital would you mind?? how many scots have to leave to find work, some because of westminister?

once they start doing jobs cheaper as they are doing already think you might care maybe not your line of work but there fecking up the building trade which is mine and many more

 

 

 

northen, you main reasons for voting no...

 

give me something positive for staying part of the uk

[Brigzy 1,298]

Joe, when you're a minority in your own country, (if you all vote "yes"), your children will be lining up to emigrate, maybe even to the rUK. Salmond has said, and even you can't spin it, that he will build up the tax base with immigrants.

Where will they come from ? Bulgaria, Rumania, and all the other shitholes in the world. Scots will end up paying more in taxes to keep these people in benefits, just as the UK is doing now ! We should stick together and make the UK what it should be; a land for ALL Scots, English, Welsh and Northern Irish !

[nothernlite 18,089]

dont vote joe not registered dont think we need fixed pretty happy the way it is think the fannies that are backing the vote like the green party will want hunting with dogs banned all together plus fishing where does it end with these tree hugging fuds stay united

Edited September 6, 2014 by nothernlite

[Joe1888 672]

Joe, when you're a minority in your own country, (if you all vote "yes"), your children will be lining up to emigrate, maybe even to the rUK. Salmond has said, and even you can't spin it, that he will build up the tax base with immigrants.

Where will they come from ? Bulgaria, Rumania, and all the other shitholes in the world. Scots will end up paying more in taxes to keep these people in benefits, just as the UK is doing now ! We should stick together and make the UK what it should be; a land for ALL Scots, English, Welsh and Northern Irish !

brigzy. do you have a vote? i cant argue/debate with people who dont have a vote and are dead cert scotland is too wee to poor

Edited September 6, 2014 by Joe1888

[Joe1888 672]

dont vote joe not registered dont think we need fixed pretty happy the way it is think the fannies that are backing the vote like the green party will want hunting with dogs banned all together plus fishing where does it end with these tree hugging fuds stay united

 

 

we will have who we vote for mate, each and everytime, working in our interests, have to pick best of a bad bunch lol. if things were improved would you vote yes if could? theres basic day to day stuff alot of us use thats at risk, we can keep what we have and improve on it with a yes vote!

Edited September 6, 2014 by Joe1888

[nothernlite 18,089]

must admit it looks like a yes vote thats all you see flags and posters wiyh YES

[Joe1888 672]

must admit it looks like a yes vote thats all you see flags and posters wiyh YES

 

 

yes mate, theres massive support each day.. it really looks possible..

[Joe1888 672]

brigzy,max,rag,northen read the following, what would you do?

 

 

"Imagine Scotland was already independent and we were about to have a referendum on whether to join a union with the rest of the UK.

Could the Pro-union side convince us that getting together would be better when we were told what would happen to Scotland after such a union? Some bullet points from the campaign…

-Your main Parliament will move 600 miles away, and your MPs will be in a tiny minority & will therefore have limited ability to effect policy on your behalf
-Scotland will get a government it didn’t vote for.
-All of your oil and gas revenues will be handed over to the treasury in London.
-Even though not 1 inch of track will touch Scottish soil your taxpayers will contribute £4.2bn to the HS2 project.
-Your taxpayers will also subsidise the crossrail project to the tune of £4.2bn
-The biggest nuclear weapons facility in Western Europe will be built on the river Clyde, just 30 miles from your largest city.
-Even though you only have 8.2% of the UK’s population you will contribute 9.9% of the UK’s total tax take yet will only receive 9.3% of that tax take back to spend in Scotland (you will lose £4.4bn per year to the UK treasury)
-You will devolve all of the economic levers you have used to shape your economy directly to London and will now only have control of 7% of your economy
-Even though 79% of your MP's voted against it we will privitise your publicly owned mail service
-Even though 91% of your MPs voted against the bedroom tax in your parliament, we will impose it.
-Even though 82% of your MP's believed that a VAT increase would be detrimental to your economy, we will impose a VAT increase.
-You will join a country whose health and education services are rapidly being privatised.
-Now and again you’ll get dragged into an illegal foreign war.
-An austerity budget will be imposed from London cutting jobs and threatening vital public services even though 81% of your MP's voted against the cuts.
-The financial regulation system will be so weak and so lax that your whole economy will be brought to the brink of collapse.
-The most weak and vulnerable in society, instead of getting the protection and support they deserve will be interrogated and humiliated in an effort to get them off the meagre levels of support to which they are entitled.
Who in Scotland would vote for such a package?
Who would vote for that union?
So why would anyone vote to remain in such a union now?
This is about democratic ownership, social responsibility and the fact that Scotland on its own will be economically stronger from day one of independence....."

Edited September 6, 2014 by Joe1888

[Joe1888 672]

Joe how old are you ?

Whats your Living ?

Are you a Home owner ?

Married ?

Kids ?

 

this is the internet, your a bad man....

[Brigzy 1,298]

Joe, when you're a minority in your own country, (if you all vote "yes"), your children will be lining up to emigrate, maybe even to the rUK. Salmond has said, and even you can't spin it, that he will build up the tax base with immigrants.

Where will they come from ? Bulgaria, Rumania, and all the other shitholes in the world. Scots will end up paying more in taxes to keep these people in benefits, just as the UK is doing now ! We should stick together and make the UK what it should be; a land for ALL Scots, English, Welsh and Northern Irish !

brigzy. do you have a vote? i cant argue/debate with people who dont have a vote and are dead cert scotland is too wee to poor[/quote

 

 

Where on earth have I said Scotland is "too wee to poor" ? Don't be like Salmond and make things up ! I'm English, and I think if something as big as the break up of the United Kingdom is to be voted for, then I think we ALL should have a vote. I have Scottish relatives, friends and acquaintances , and I hope to god they know all the facts and vote with both their heads AND their hearts, and aren't taken in by the false promises of people like you and Salmond.

[Joe1888 672]

 

 

Joe, when you're a minority in your own country, (if you all vote "yes"), your children will be lining up to emigrate, maybe even to the rUK. Salmond has said, and even you can't spin it, that he will build up the tax base with immigrants.

Where will they come from ? Bulgaria, Rumania, and all the other shitholes in the world. Scots will end up paying more in taxes to keep these people in benefits, just as the UK is doing now ! We should stick together and make the UK what it should be; a land for ALL Scots, English, Welsh and Northern Irish !

brigzy. do you have a vote? i cant argue/debate with people who dont have a vote and are dead cert scotland is too wee to poor[/quote

 

 

Where on earth have I said Scotland is "too wee to poor" ? Don't be like Salmond and make things up ! I'm English, and I think if something as big as the break up of the United Kingdom is to be voted for, then I think we ALL should have a vote. I have Scottish relatives, friends and acquaintances , and I hope to god they know all the facts and vote with both their heads AND their hearts, and aren't taken in by the false promises of people like you and Salmond.

 

 

if you havnt then my bad, thats the reponse we get.. you only need to read a few pages back for some examples...

 

its not about salmond, the no campain tried that tactic and it failed

[nothernlite 18,089]

joe what go you think it will bring to scotland with out all the pasting short please is it a proud thing ?