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Joe , it's figure manipulation fella, the no side could produce such "shocking figures"

Folk in Scotland have it good, they are comfortable & secure, they have the security for the future generations of there family, & some are wanting to risk it, for which at its best, is a 50/50 chance of getting?!? Hmmm getting what? More money? You really think your going to be the next Dubai. ? Lol

Sadly a lot of natives have "small country " syndrome, which like small man syndrome, is just delusions of grandure (sp) lol.

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Unfortunately a lot of English are sick of hearing how England holds the Scottish back.   This vote has done nothing but fracture the union and Scotland.

I'm absolutely disgusted at the fighting in George square Glasgow yesterday, the whole of Scotland were given a choice and the choice was made, no one is any less a scot for voting no and no one is mo

I cant believe there are all these pages arguing who does this and who said that, at the end of the day either vote yes or no on the 18th, there is absolutely no need for all this hostility over it. J

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What we going to do with Scotland's biggest export ,the glaswegian drinking partner,there is pubs up and down the country that rely on an Englishman and his drunk Scottish pal ,the pub trades already f****d have we got to return them too?

No wonder J.D. Weatherspoon's have backed the yes campaign,maybe they think there will be a mass exodus of the pissy smelly Monday drinking club ,with their bags of shopping ,tracksuit bottoms,with yellow white socks ,slip on shoes,

Will the sound of ,I f***ing love you by the way,no longer be heard, at 11am

Up the bar,and cheap jars of coffee and blocks of cheese no longer be available to locals in the ,quest to fund the sesh.

Maybe it's the reason behind HS2, the only way they can repatriate,Scotland's beloved bar proppers,in the numbers they requires?

But please leave them be,they are as much a part of modern English culture as Sunday cricket and Wimbledon.

If you do decide to go it alone leave the likes of scotch Jimmy and red faced Mac to the happy hour with his 'disabled' mates in the wetherspoons

Of England ,it will be a sad place without them.

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Why the union has lasted

 

The average Englishman in the home he calls his castle, slips into his national costume, a shabby raincoat, patented by Chemist Charles MacIntosh from Glasgow, Scotland.

En-route to his office he strides along the English lane, surfaced by John Macadam of Ayr, Scotland.

He drives an English car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop, Veterinary Surgeon of Dreghorn, Scotland.

At the office he receives the mail bearing adhesive stamps invented by John Chalmers, Bookseller and Printer of Dundee, Scotland.

During the day he uses the telephone invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland. At home in the evening his daughter pedals her bicycle invented by Kirkpatrick Macmillan, Blacksmith of Thornhill, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.

He watches the news on television, an invention of John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, Scotland, and hears an item about the U.S. Navy founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland.

Nowhere can an Englishman turn to escape the ingenuity of the Scots.

He has by now been reminded too much of Scotland and in desperation he picks up the Bible, only to find that the first man mentioned in the good book is a Scot, King James VI, who authorised its translation.

He could take to drink but the Scots make the best in the world.

He could take a rifle and end it all, but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland.

If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table injected with penicillin, discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming of Darvel, Scotland, and given chloroform, an anesthetic discovered by Sir James Young Simpson, Obstetrician and Gynecologist of Bathgate, Scotland.

Out of the anesthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank of England founded by William Paterson of Dumfries, Scotland.

Perhaps his only remaining hope would be to get a transfusion of guid Scottish blood which would entitle him tae ask
"Wha's like us? damm few an' there a' deed"

 

But afterwards

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Some interesting scenerio's have come up during the weekend concerning the Borders, an area where I hunt, shoot and fish.

 

There are farms that actually straddle the Borders, with fields and stock on both sides, these farmers are understandably very concerned at the outcome of a "yes" vote.

 

One strange anomaly is the English farmer who's farm straddles the border and his home is in Scotland; he is allowed to vote. The neighbouring farm , which also straddles the border is owned by a Scotsman, who's home is on the English side; he is NOT allowed to vote.

 

There are also farms on the English side with Scottish workers, and farms on the Scottish side with English workers. The farmers wonder what will happen in a worst case scenerio, where there are border controls, passport controls, different currencies, and tax rates, how would these workers be treated, bearing in mind some days they would be working in fields in Scotland, some days in fields in England ? Which countries laws would they be subject to ? If Scotland adopts the euro, how would they be paid, would their wages be subject to exchange rates ?

 

What a can of worms will be opened if Scotland votes "yes" !!

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well ive listened to debates and speeches and ive read endless leaflets about why and why not to vote yes and still i'm undecided, but one thing that gets me is why are the union supporters so desperate to keep us after all all i hear from them is how much scotland benefits from the union so why not cut the apron strings and let the scots fend forthemselves, maybe they benefit as much thats why the hullabaloo like while together they get the taxes from all the big scottish industries they also get control of the oil and gas industries, yes scotland gets its share but it also contributes to many things that doesnt benefit it such as the cross rail project scotland will pay 4;2 billion towards it the hs2 another 4billion and not one inch of track will be laid in scotland, why am i undecided is the matter of immigration i think britain just might be getting a better grip of it while an independent scotland looks like it will encourage it, a bit selfish i know but its me that lives here.

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Why the union has lasted

 

The average Englishman in the home he calls his castle, slips into his national costume, a shabby raincoat, patented by Chemist Charles MacIntosh from Glasgow, Scotland.[/size]En-route to his office he strides along the English lane, surfaced by John Macadam of Ayr, Scotland.[/size]He drives an English car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop, Veterinary Surgeon of Dreghorn, Scotland.[/size]At the office he receives the mail bearing adhesive stamps invented by John Chalmers, Bookseller and Printer of Dundee, Scotland.[/size]During the day he uses the telephone invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland. At home in the evening his daughter pedals her bicycle invented by Kirkpatrick Macmillan, Blacksmith of Thornhill, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.[/size]He watches the news on television, an invention of John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, Scotland, and hears an item about the U.S. Navy founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland.[/size]Nowhere can an Englishman turn to escape the ingenuity of the Scots.[/size]He has by now been reminded too much of Scotland and in desperation he picks up the Bible, only to find that the first man mentioned in the good book is a Scot, King James VI, who authorised its translation.[/size]He could take to drink but the Scots make the best in the world.[/size]He could take a rifle and end it all, but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland.[/size]If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table injected with penicillin, discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming of Darvel, Scotland, and given chloroform, an anesthetic discovered by Sir James Young Simpson, Obstetrician and Gynecologist of Bathgate, Scotland.[/size]Out of the anesthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank of England founded by William Paterson of Dumfries, Scotland.[/size]Perhaps his only remaining hope would be to get a transfusion of guid Scottish blood which would entitle him tae ask[/size]"Wha's like us? damm few an' there a' deed"[/size]

 

But afterwards [/size]

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...and ironically you are telling us these wonderful treats via the world wide Web using a computer... English inventions! LOL

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the more i read the piss from you English makes me have second thoughts about my no vote

 

Pmsl. Brave Heart or Shitty Pants? We will soon find out.

. This is an adult topic, children should be seen and not heard

 

 

It is indeed, and the courage to grasp independence when the chance arises is something that the adults of every other nation faced with the choice have had. How will the scottish songs of pride and defiance be seen as anything other than a laughing stock if the "No" vote wins? And as for children being seen and not heard! They are being allowed to vote this week in scotland aren't they?

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They are being aloud to vote because Salmond knows he couldn't win it with sensible adult minds making the choice.

Let's face it, did any of us have any idea how things worked when we were 16?..........if you had told me then that we could have an empire again I would have believed you, not until your older and living in The real world do you understand how things work......even then, lots don't !!

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