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[Joe1888 672]

on the plus side if they go bust again, giving most of money to london like before the boe will have to deal with it, doesnt sound bad, no jobs etc will be lost or operations moved, thats the main thing.

Edited September 11, 2014 by Joe1888

[Brigzy 1,298]

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where does it say for 100% "RBS will relocate vast tracts of it's business south" or do you mean if the rbs put there contingency plans in place

Joe, you keep telling me to read the reports....perhaps you should aswell ! Why is Salmond demanding an inquiry into the release of the statement, before the vote, if it's not true ?

[Joe1888 672]

 

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where does it say for 100% "RBS will relocate vast tracts of it's business south" or do you mean if the rbs put there contingency plans in place

Joe, you keep telling me to read the reports....perhaps you should aswell ! Why is Salmond demanding an inquiry into the release of the statement, before the vote, if it's not true ?

 

 

are we moving onto something else again?

[Brigzy 1,298]

 

 

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where does it say for 100% "RBS will relocate vast tracts of it's business south" or do you mean if the rbs put there contingency plans in place

Joe, you keep telling me to read the reports....perhaps you should aswell ! Why is Salmond demanding an inquiry into the release of the statement, before the vote, if it's not true ?

 

 

are we moving onto something else again?

 

Not in the least; I've asked you this question numorous times, but you don't give an answer. Why is Salmond so angry the news came out before the vote ? Doe's he not want the Scottish people to know all the facts ?

[Joe1888 672]

 

 

 

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where does it say for 100% "RBS will relocate vast tracts of it's business south" or do you mean if the rbs put there contingency plans in place

Joe, you keep telling me to read the reports....perhaps you should aswell ! Why is Salmond demanding an inquiry into the release of the statement, before the vote, if it's not true ?

 

 

are we moving onto something else again?

 

Not in the least; I've asked you this question numorous times, but you don't give an answer. Why is Salmond so angry the news came out before the vote ? Doe's he not want the Scottish people to know all the facts ?

 

 

 

bbc reported that a tresury source talked about it with the rbs

 

ill quote eck, tresury officals or other ministers are not allowed to leak sensitive market information. market sensitive information cannot be realease before the market announcement at 7am

Edited September 11, 2014 by Joe1888

[Joe1888 672]

4.05 mins its mentioned, if that information is wrong please point it out..

 

 

Edited September 11, 2014 by Joe1888

[Brigzy 1,298]

 

 

 

 

edit:

 

where does it say for 100% "RBS will relocate vast tracts of it's business south" or do you mean if the rbs put there contingency plans in place

Joe, you keep telling me to read the reports....perhaps you should aswell ! Why is Salmond demanding an inquiry into the release of the statement, before the vote, if it's not true ?

 

 

are we moving onto something else again?

 

Not in the least; I've asked you this question numorous times, but you don't give an answer. Why is Salmond so angry the news came out before the vote ? Doe's he not want the Scottish people to know all the facts ?

 

 

 

bbc reported that a tresury source talked about it with the rbs

 

its said, tresury officals or other ministers are not allowed to leak sensitive market information. market sesitive information cannot be realised before the market announcement at 7am

 

So the news would have come out before the vote any way ? Why is Salmond so angry about it ? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

Joe, I'm not your adversary, although I love a debate ! If Scotland votes "yes", then I hope with all my heart that it all works out well. If it's a no vote, then I hope Devo Max goe's some way to assuaging the hurt that the Nationalists will be feeling. My ONLY concern in this, is that the Scottish people get to hear, and decide on, ALL the facts. Salmond, and you, are only putting forth the good points, and not pointing out any pitfalls that independence might bring. Anyhow, I wish you and Scotland well, no matter how the vote goes.

[mushroom 13,252]

To me, the plusses are Scotland will , if the "yes" vote wins; have full control of their finances and spending and taxation, of course it will be allowed into the EU, as part of the EU's expansion plans. This will probably mean joining the euro and the Shcengen Area as pre-requisites to being accepted. Scotland seems far more pro european than the rest of the UK, so it may be just what they want. The minusses are they will be swapping one union for another, and may find that Brussells is making more rules, laws and regulations than Westminster ever did. Keeping the pound without monetary union will leave you with no control over you currency, keeping the pound WITH monetary union will mean a foreign country will be setting your monetary policy, i.e. interest rates, taxation, etc. Personally, I'd say Scotland would be better off in the long run, with it's own currency and central bank. This uncertaincy over the currency is the MAJOR minus I can see; just about everything else will be worked out with time and consultation.

Lol so you think with catalunya so near their vote that Spain isn't going to use it's veto?? Or UK??? You couldn't make this hopeful shite up! You have been told catagorically no pound, big business moving south, supermarket price rises and you still follow the moronic salmond line of it's a bluff???LMFAO!

[saluki bouy 745]

Joe1888 if there is a no vote what will you and the yes voters do then? Salmons has unleashed a very dangerous monster in my eyes if this goes the wrong way for him you aren't going to shrug your shoulders and go aw well your going to campaign and petition protest claim your wrong done by exactly the same as many will do if it's the result you hope for this is splitting are great little country down the middle these wounds will not easly or quickly be healed, I seen two 65 70 years on are lunch break at work nearly have a square go I was disgusted and ashamed only last week the where sharing tabs an flask of tea. Salmons and SNP have given us a vote for independence ands powder keg that's going blow up within the next week

[Chr15j 59]

Funny how the 'Yessers' love arguing (like the snivelling shite Salmond is) about how unfair it is market sensitive info was leaked, its hilarious, you may as well be stamping your feet saying its not fair!!!!!

 

Come on guys wake up, stop with the blind braveheart patriotism and see the real, bigger, picture.

 

You are being fed hope and dreams, not facts.

 

If you want to dream of freedom watch films, but its a real world out there with real consequences and you will suffer them if you ignore the facts and blindly follow Salmond off the cliff (thing is he will have a monetary parachute to save him, normal folk will end up on the rocks).

 

The world is not perfect, it is not fair, all politicians are bent (some more than others) but in the cold light of day a union supports its members through bad times and shares the benefits in the good. If Scotland goes it alone, you have no-one to help you (Europe wont as it cant help its current members let alone new ones) and please don't fall for the dream it will be all roses, it wont!!!

[Joe1888 672]

 

To me, the plusses are Scotland will , if the "yes" vote wins; have full control of their finances and spending and taxation, of course it will be allowed into the EU, as part of the EU's expansion plans. This will probably mean joining the euro and the Shcengen Area as pre-requisites to being accepted. Scotland seems far more pro european than the rest of the UK, so it may be just what they want. The minusses are they will be swapping one union for another, and may find that Brussells is making more rules, laws and regulations than Westminster ever did. Keeping the pound without monetary union will leave you with no control over you currency, keeping the pound WITH monetary union will mean a foreign country will be setting your monetary policy, i.e. interest rates, taxation, etc. Personally, I'd say Scotland would be better off in the long run, with it's own currency and central bank. This uncertaincy over the currency is the MAJOR minus I can see; just about everything else will be worked out with time and consultation.

Lol so you think with catalunya so near their vote that Spain isn't going to use it's veto?? Or UK??? You couldn't make this hopeful shite up! You have been told catagorically no pound, big business moving south, supermarket price rises and you still follow the moronic salmond line of it's a bluff???LMFAO!

 

 

 

you guys are like the no campain, cant agree on anything

[Joe1888 672]

Joe1888 if there is a no vote what will you and the yes voters do then? Salmons has unleashed a very dangerous monster in my eyes if this goes the wrong way for him you aren't going to shrug your shoulders and go aw well your going to campaign and petition protest claim your wrong done by exactly the same as many will do if it's the result you hope for this is splitting are great little country down the middle these wounds will not easly or quickly be healed, I seen two 65 70 years on are lunch break at work nearly have a square go I was disgusted and ashamed only last week the where sharing tabs an flask of tea. Salmons and SNP have given us a vote for independence ands powder keg that's going blow up within the next week

 

 

Ill do the best i can do, can only piss with the cock you got

[Chr15j 59]

Oh, I forgot to ask, Joe, I challenge you to this.

Point out just three negatives of a Yes Vote (its good to question ones opinions), or positives of a No Vote if you prefer.

 

I will do the same out of courtesy.

 

Negatives of a No Vote are:

1) Scotland will not have full control over its destiny

2) If the GBP suffers it will affect Scotland too

3) Scotland may continue to be led by a Conservative government which is somewhat contrary to the majority centre left leaning of Scottish voters.

 

I can do it? Can you?

[mushroom 13,252]

 

 

 

To me, the plusses are Scotland will , if the "yes" vote wins; have full control of their finances and spending and taxation, of course it will be allowed into the EU, as part of the EU's expansion plans. This will probably mean joining the euro and the Shcengen Area as pre-requisites to being accepted. Scotland seems far more pro european than the rest of the UK, so it may be just what they want. The minusses are they will be swapping one union for another, and may find that Brussells is making more rules, laws and regulations than Westminster ever did. Keeping the pound without monetary union will leave you with no control over you currency, keeping the pound WITH monetary union will mean a foreign country will be setting your monetary policy, i.e. interest rates, taxation, etc. Personally, I'd say Scotland would be better off in the long run, with it's own currency and central bank. This uncertaincy over the currency is the MAJOR minus I can see; just about everything else will be worked out with time and consultation.

Lol so you think with catalunya so near their vote that Spain isn't going to use it's veto?? Or UK??? You couldn't make this hopeful shite up! You have been told catagorically no pound, big business moving south, supermarket price rises and you still follow the moronic salmond line of it's a bluff???LMFAO!

 

you guys are like the no campain, cant agree on anything

Actually that was the wrong post quoted but In true blind political arrogance you fail to address the points I made! I give up I hope you get independence and just fucck off to be frank sick of hearing you greeting braveheart style, mark my words love it is gonna end in tears regardless of how the vote goes. I really hope someone beats that political shit stirrer salmond with a broken bottle!

[Joe1888 672]

 

 

 

To me, the plusses are Scotland will , if the "yes" vote wins; have full control of their finances and spending and taxation, of course it will be allowed into the EU, as part of the EU's expansion plans. This will probably mean joining the euro and the Shcengen Area as pre-requisites to being accepted. Scotland seems far more pro european than the rest of the UK, so it may be just what they want. The minusses are they will be swapping one union for another, and may find that Brussells is making more rules, laws and regulations than Westminster ever did. Keeping the pound without monetary union will leave you with no control over you currency, keeping the pound WITH monetary union will mean a foreign country will be setting your monetary policy, i.e. interest rates, taxation, etc. Personally, I'd say Scotland would be better off in the long run, with it's own currency and central bank. This uncertaincy over the currency is the MAJOR minus I can see; just about everything else will be worked out with time and consultation.

Lol so you think with catalunya so near their vote that Spain isn't going to use it's veto?? Or UK??? You couldn't make this hopeful shite up! You have been told catagorically no pound, big business moving south, supermarket price rises and you still follow the moronic salmond line of it's a bluff???LMFAO!

 

you guys are like the no campain, cant agree on anything

Actually that was the wrong post quoted but In true blind political arrogance you fail to address the points I made! I give up I hope you get independence and just fucck off to be frank sick of hearing you greeting braveheart style, mark my words love it is gonna end in tears regardless of how the vote goes. I really hope someone beats that political shit stirrer salmond with a broken bottle!

 

 

 

ill eat humble pie if am wrong, if it turns out for the better for scots i hope you can admit it. either way i have no problems with you

Edited September 11, 2014 by Joe1888