Dewclaw69 484 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) its basic behavioural stuff. pup won't come back, gets a thrashing, doesn't come back cos it thinks when it does that's what happens. only worth chastising a dog/pup when you catch it in the act. mate of mine used to shout and ball at the dog and whack it when it didn't retrieve. guess what ? it never did till it died. . seen him chase all over fields to get rabbits that the dog caught. funny as fook but didn't half know how to spoil a nights lamping. Edited August 22, 2014 by robs5230 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dengil 27 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Agree with Whippet be firm when need be but a young dog shouldn't really need to be given a belting a good shout or raised voice should do the trick. A dog trained by the boot is a sure way to turn into a nervous wreck be ruined and eventually passed on. When i was alot younger and less experienced with dogs i'll admit i was more likely to lose my patience and lash out when my dog was misbehaving, but now i'm a little older and more chilled out i've never needed to hit my dogs and wouldn't really considerate it unless in extreme circumstances, I look back and understand the error of my ways. Some people are just irate and think a dog will do as its told straight away without putting the time, effort and patience in. End of the day you get a dog with the intention of it giving you many happy years and as the saying goes "mans best friend" why the hell would you then feel the need the belt the shxt out of it cause it's not doing exactly what you want especially as a pup ????? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sammy666 49 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 iv seen people kicking the shit out of dogs when they did in my eyes nothing wrong and I felt like kicking the compete shit out of them if I were there dogs id bite there face of. I keep a firm but fair hand on my lurches the occasional slap if required but a stamp of the foot and loud deep voice is usually enough to keep them right the more praise they get the better they trust u and a better they work for u. the only time I ever went really hard on a pup was when a 7 mouth old pup went for a flock of sheep he never did it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 dont hit dogs, never hit puppies, and only a complete idiot would hit a puppy whilst training!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,916 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 well lost my patience with dogs, but not much with pups, as I think you make allowances for young dogs. I find prob which his worse than hitting a dog is to totally deaf them out in your mind, meaning you got no real feeling for the dog(respect) for it. and felt like that a lot of late, suppose should move a dog on really, but you carry on thinking things will get better but they never do.? I ve learned the hard way when you start hitting a dog , its over+ finished . but (if) you can learn from it and behave different you can move forward and with bit of luck end up with dog to be proud of for the future . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest vin Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 well lost my patience with dogs, but not much with pups, as I think you make allowances for young dogs. I find prob which his worse than hitting a dog is to totally deaf them out in your mind, meaning you got no real feeling for the dog(respect) for it. and felt like that a lot of late, suppose should move a dog on really, but you carry on thinking things will get better but they never do.? I ve learned the hard way when you start hitting a dog , its over+ finished . but (if) you can learn from it and behave different you can move forward and with bit of luck end up with dog to be proud of for the future . I,ll have him Ray. . . He can join Molly on the side bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 I rarely hit a pup, especially a sighthound/lurcher, or if I have it's a tap on the nose, my boardogs have copped it a bit rougher but even still not as pups. I have let frustration get the better of me with adult dogs, especially when I know they know they are doing the wrong thing. But even then I try to use restraint and I always am trying to learn patience and better training methods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 rover , please un sink your teeth out of the cat / sheep or other canine ,.........commands sometimes don't work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,916 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 well lost my patience with dogs, but not much with pups, as I think you make allowances for young dogs. I find prob which his worse than hitting a dog is to totally deaf them out in your mind, meaning you got no real feeling for the dog(respect) for it. and felt like that a lot of late, suppose should move a dog on really, but you carry on thinking things will get better but they never do.? I ve learned the hard way when you start hitting a dog , its over+ finished . but (if) you can learn from it and behave different you can move forward and with bit of luck end up with dog to be proud of for the future . I,ll have him Ray. . . He can join Molly on the side bench. I know that vin ,you always liked him , if he did ever go , it would be to you deff mate prob is the young dog thinks the world of him they got great bond together .! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dewclaw69 484 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 rover , please un sink your teeth out of the cat / sheep or other canine ,.........commands sometimes don't work bit off topic this,but.. i've always had a staffy as a house dog for about 20 years or so now. had a big old bugger pts at 16 about a year ago. he was that biddable he would spit out/ drop anything on command. always walked him with mine and a mates lurchers and he was that good i never had him on a lead or collared. any way at the time the dog was about 6 and in his prime , at a mates one day with the dog and i had to leave as i had to go out. going out the front door i noticed there was some bloke with a big bouncy newfoundland on a lead talking to a bloke at his front gate a couple of doors away. as i didnt have him on a lead i went back in for a few minutes. got to the point where i had to go so i picked up the box of duck eggs the mate gave me and headed out with the dog. the staff walked calmly past the big black hairy mutt which promptly leaned over and latched straight onto my staff by his eyelid. all hell broke loose and my staff has the newfoundland even more promptly by the throat intent on opening it up. the now not so cocky owner is getting pulled about by his dog's lead and shouting allsorts. all the duck eggs went up in the air and the only way i could see to stop my dog ( as he was beyond any commands and on it big time ) was to grab him by the tail and put a big boot in his plums. he spat the dog out , i gave the owner a fook off tablet and the staff walked home like it never happened. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,154 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fluff 409 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) a sharp grab of kneck and no is enough, if your stock breaking maybe a bit check of the long leash or a good roar if they get to intrested in sheep lambs etc ,had dogs never looked at forbiden qaurry and others you had to keep at til they mature Edited August 23, 2014 by fluff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,589 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Never even raised my voice to my dogs, neh mind thrashing em, i understand there body language, as they do mine 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Feck thrashing young jukels,........ my dogs have helped me earn a living.... They are my good old pals,..... I would never hurt a friend .......... Edited August 23, 2014 by Phil Lloyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 If they take he piss pulling on the lead for example they might get a light check and told to heel in a low voice,which is enough. I have been a bit rougher with other more stubborn breeds,but don't smack them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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