Brigzy 1,298 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Iv Apathy for the WB and Gaza but they are just used as human shields by the terroists that reside there, i just dont Trust Muslims and Islam as a whole because they will always put their religion before the Country they reside in. As a footnote that vid posted of the lady replying to the moderate muslim woman is spot on Why dont all Civilised Goverments take the same view and stance and act up on it. Everything she says is the top and bottom of it Max, do you mean"EMPATHY", or are you really apathetic to the plight of the WB and Gaza ? Sorry to be pedantic, but apathy and empathy are complete opposites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 desertbred i know you bare the brunt of what muslim terrorists do on here, but what do you think is the answer to it? it obviously lies at the feet of the muslim leaders to knock all the shite on the head, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob284 1,682 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Sick thing is. He will get on a plane and will be back in the uk living on tax payers money and telling us we are politically wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Comments to 2nd and 3rd generation British born muslims like "yiou dont belong here", ""f**k off back to the shit hole you come from " "All Muslims are terrorists" "you Paki b*****ds" comments like these isolate the young British Muslims. They see their parents and Grand parents walking afraid to look up in case some one gives them abuse, these things isolate the younger british born muslims they are all stereo typed as Stinking Pakis and shit skinned desert niggers so the young ones born here feel a strong resentment even a hatred towards the people and society that is rejecting them , they dont listen to their parents as they consider their parents as weak so they get in gangs and groups and fall prey to the fanatical hate mongering radical preachers who have been given visa,s and residency here by who ? the British goverment the perfect example Abu Hamza and Abu Qatarda they were kicked out of their own countries by the moderate Muslims and what happens they are granted residency here so who is responsible its not the Muslims who set immigration policy. These radicalised kids are not in the control of their parents anymore neither are they concerned with police or security forces they have gone to fight for some cause that has been glamourised for them they have got no respect here so why do they choose to go to fight with terror organisations, Now threats are given to even more youngsters if you go out of the country and we think you have received military training you will be imprisoned when you return. All Jewish boys go to Isreal at 18 for 2 years national service learn weapons explosives even in some cases how to kill will they be imprisoned when the return from isreal. Half the Albanians here have undergone military training in Albania they are noe involved in every illegal activity here and are they arrested as potential terrorists or security threats, The ex USSR states the majority of poles , Lithuanians, Georgians Rumanians Bulgarians have all under gone military training are the singled out and isolated? You ask why the young muslims get isolated and radicalised seems pretty clear to me . People claim we have no free speech we cant say anything in case we a re called racist well heres the news a lot of people are racist from all communities but have not got the guts to admit it people need to get real start talking open their eyes from all communities and get it sorted , If there is a fear that youths are or are becoming radicalised then dont give them passports put them behind the bars if required but dont talk shite that why is this happening. politicians for the sake of votes will appease any one they need to they have more skeletons in the cupboards than most. The race issues have been simmering since before Enoch Powell gave his rivers of blood speach what has been done to try to prevent this happening any one know the answer. one question, why is this only relative to Muslim kids and not every other 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant that resides here are you nieve enought to think the Black kids and Eastern Europeans wont erupt along the line Even British kids are out rioting on the streets social unrest is a precursor to revolution The irish travellers the various ethnic groups all have underlying tensions its is the Muslims who are embroiled in all kinds of turmoils but dont kid yourself look at the number of British kids on the streets they will explode before long but i don't see any of them going off to fight anywhere else, you can not group travellers and terrorist there not the same thing, this is Muslim kids brain washed by Muslims. the answer lies within the Muslim community, if the time comes you see who all the disillusioned groups stand behind. lol the only time a traveller will have anything to do with something large and explosive is when he gets in late from the pub and he has a row with hes wife ? Or when he is stealing copper cable and wrongly believing the power is turned off. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Comments to 2nd and 3rd generation British born muslims like "yiou dont belong here", ""f**k off back to the shit hole you come from " "All Muslims are terrorists" "you Paki b*****ds" comments like these isolate the young British Muslims. They see their parents and Grand parents walking afraid to look up in case some one gives them abuse, these things isolate the younger british born muslims they are all stereo typed as Stinking Pakis and shit skinned desert niggers so the young ones born here feel a strong resentment even a hatred towards the people and society that is rejecting them , they dont listen to their parents as they consider their parents as weak so they get in gangs and groups and fall prey to the fanatical hate mongering radical preachers who have been given visa,s and residency here by who ? the British goverment the perfect example Abu Hamza and Abu Qatarda they were kicked out of their own countries by the moderate Muslims and what happens they are granted residency here so who is responsible its not the Muslims who set immigration policy. These radicalised kids are not in the control of their parents anymore neither are they concerned with police or security forces they have gone to fight for some cause that has been glamourised for them they have got no respect here so why do they choose to go to fight with terror organisations, Now threats are given to even more youngsters if you go out of the country and we think you have received military training you will be imprisoned when you return. All Jewish boys go to Isreal at 18 for 2 years national service learn weapons explosives even in some cases how to kill will they be imprisoned when the return from isreal. Half the Albanians here have undergone military training in Albania they are noe involved in every illegal activity here and are they arrested as potential terrorists or security threats, The ex USSR states the majority of poles , Lithuanians, Georgians Rumanians Bulgarians have all under gone military training are the singled out and isolated? You ask why the young muslims get isolated and radicalised seems pretty clear to me . People claim we have no free speech we cant say anything in case we a re called racist well heres the news a lot of people are racist from all communities but have not got the guts to admit it people need to get real start talking open their eyes from all communities and get it sorted , If there is a fear that youths are or are becoming radicalised then dont give them passports put them behind the bars if required but dont talk shite that why is this happening. politicians for the sake of votes will appease any one they need to they have more skeletons in the cupboards than most. The race issues have been simmering since before Enoch Powell gave his rivers of blood speach what has been done to try to prevent this happening any one know the answer.one question, why is this only relative to Muslim kids and not every other 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant that resides here are you nieve enought to think the Black kids and Eastern Europeans wont erupt along the line Even British kids are out rioting on the streets social unrest is a precursor to revolution The irish travellers the various ethnic groups all have underlying tensions its is the Muslims who are embroiled in all kinds of turmoils but dont kid yourself look at the number of British kids on the streets they will explode before long but i don't see any of them going off to fight anywhere else, you can not group travellers and terrorist there not the same thing, this is Muslim kids brain washed by Muslims. the answer lies within the Muslim community, if the time comes you see who all the disillusioned groups stand behind. lol the only time a traveller will have anything to do with something large and explosive is when he gets in late from the pub and he has a row with hes wife Or when he is stealing copper cable and wrongly believing the power is turned off. cracker lolol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) In response to the question asked of me by Ggib Isreal needs to be reined in. America and western goverments need to stop undermining the Governments of sovereign states the nationals of a country should decide its direction and the government if they dont like the governing body get rid of it. As for the Islamic part every Country that calls itself an Islamic republic should eliminate all the radical firbrand clerics whos sole intention is to cause strife and death around the qworld every muslim country knows who they are, Most of this financing of Teror groups is done by zionists and Saudia goverment the Sauds because if the middle east is in a constant turmoil their regime is safe if the fighting is on some one elses door step also the price of oil can be kept artificialy high in times of disturbance and war so suits the largest members of OPEC. As for Western countries put a total ban on construction of Mosques around the world and regulate and licence the ones that are already there strictly vet the commitee members of the Mosques and the Mullahs who lead the prayers and give the sermons in the Mosques.Start a mass contact campaign with the young Muslims and try to guage from them what they have to say. In a place like Pakistan everystreet in towns and villages you will find at least 2/3 Mosques even at Friday prayers you might find maximum of 10 praying these unlicenced Mosques and the uneducated Mullahs who control them are the ones radicalising the youths around the world most of the terror groups were either trained or conceived in the areas bordering Afghanistan and Pakistan, The Members of these groups come from wide diversity of backgrounds and countries some are highly educated professionals others uneducated farm labourers students etc they ar e recruited all round the world by radical preachers most of the ones recruited are either disenchanted by some thing in their country of residence others are searching for an identity and many are inadequate in mental capacity or education or even ambition these are ripe recruiting grounds for the radicals . How to solve it needs some one or group much more intelligent than me but a good place to start is to listen and talk to people on the streets in this case young muslims you dont have to like who you are talking or listening to or what they espouse but compromise and mutual respect is a must if the trust and tolerance is to be found. Edited August 20, 2014 by desertbred 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I wouldn't like to see the EDL come up against a group of organised,fanatical,hardened soldiers. even if they weren't armed,which they of course are. sub-maximal efforts will yield sub-maximal results,and if people don't get to grips with that soon we're going to lose this country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 or just nuc afgan or pakistan lol. thats a good answer db, at last a bit of sence 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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noddy10 411 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 or just nuc afgan or pakistan lol. thats a good answer db, at last a bit of sence that's the one. the world will be a much better place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 hatred is bred into them iv seen it all my life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 hatred is bred into them iv seen it all my life just like over here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 hatred is bred into them iv seen it all my lifejust like over here I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 hatred is bred into them iv seen it all my lifejust like over here I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up lol well i know what you ment, which is why i dont understand the israel, palistine protests in town whenever we cant even sort our own place out, we as in everybody, but the 1s that get it worst is the ones from mixed families as theyre stuck in the middle tip toeing about visiting eachother 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 hatred is bred into them iv seen it all my lifejust like over here I was wondering how long it would take for you to show up lol well i know what you ment, which is why i dont understand the israel, palistine protests in town whenever we cant even sort our own place out, we as in everybody, but the 1s that get it worst is the ones from mixed families as theyre stuck in the middle tip toeing about visiting eachother the ones from mixed families when the go the wrong road..turn out to be fanatics they need put down quick, I think it be the same for young muslims over there from the uk they think they have something to prove Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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