mushroom 12,925 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigrationBut I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?Personally, and mean this in the nicest way, but no.....I don't think you have any "right""Right" implies that you are owed something, and if your committed to the team for life then fair enough, however if you simply hitching a ride for all you can get out of it until such times as you are ready to get off the bus then that is a parasitic relationship and to my mind you should have been shown the door.As I said, not trying to be horrible, just expressing my honest take on thingsI have to disagree. Loads of young families wait until their kids have got an established education and then become citizens of other countries, a few good friends have done the exact same thing. If you abide by the system then you have every right to what the system has to offer. You haven't signed a contract for a life in the UK. I could take my education and go off to countries that have accepted me, that puts me in the same boat as Desert. He's paid into the system (more than can be said some) and played by the rules and he has the right. To have the right doesn't mean you are owed it means you are entitled which totally different. Mushroom has, I assume a UK education but chooses to apply that abroad. Isn't any different really. If anyone is to blame it's the system but that system states that Desert and his family is entitled to or has the right to a state education and the same opportunities as anyone else's child. We finally agree on some thing I will be paying for my Daughters University course purely because I dont want to burden her with a 30,000 pound debt at the end of her studies my other children were all educated abroad . I am not sponging nothing or getting a free ride so you who assume we are you tell me how I own property here payed for by funds of my own not mortgage and everything I own is paid for not on finance or HP so where the free ride comes from I do get NHS treatment but pay for my prescription though I dont need to. How am i SpongingAbsolute spot on but it most definitely not the norm in the Muslim community 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) That because they are Shiite like you who hate Sunnis who with a passion..... and yes the Kurds are Sunnis but they see themselves as different not being Arabs and having a slightly different language. Edited August 19, 2014 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,925 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on..... Moderates like the Pesh Merga and The Iranians who are dieing daily fighting them you do talk some crap you might think he is talking crap but dude thats what every non muslim sees regardless of culture Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 That because they are Shiite like you who hate Sunnis who with a passion. some of my relatives are married to Sunnis so how do we hate them my mother was Christian Do I hate her told you you spout some crap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on.....Moderates like the Pesh Merga and The Iranians who are dieing daily fighting them you do talk some crapyou might think he is talking crap but dude thats what every non muslim sees regardless of culture You live in Spain what is the situation there as regards personal religious beliefs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Maxhardcore you Imagine we also are not warrior stock: Even my own line has a martial line going back more the 1400 years. Go back far enough Ghenghais Khan Hulooku Khan andTimbalein are there so what is your point hope you dont imagine we scare easily LOL even Alexander Crossed the Kaukurum and many of his soldiers ,married and settled there, the MongoL;s of Khan from the steppes are accepted as the best martial race the world has ever seen I hear your secret agents are shall we say 'a bit special' http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/02/14/iranian-terrorist-in-thailand-blows-off-his-own-legs-in-attack-graphic-images/ Edited August 19, 2014 by shepp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,925 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on.....Moderates like the Pesh Merga and The Iranians who are dieing daily fighting them you do talk some crapyou might think he is talking crap but dude thats what every non muslim sees regardless of culture You live in Spain what is the situation there as regards personal religious beliefs?open as fuuck! My mrs follows mayan and other ancient beliefs in 3 years living here i among the whole spectrum of everything else and the only shall we say group causing bloody issues is the muslim immigrants and that is the truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on.....Moderates like the Pesh Merga and The Iranians who are dieing daily fighting them you do talk some crapyou might think he is talking crap but dude thats what every non muslim sees regardless of culture You live in Spain what is the situation there as regards personal religious beliefs?open as fuuck! My mrs follows mayan and other ancient beliefs in 3 years living here i among the whole spectrum of everything else and the only shall we say group causing bloody issues is the muslim immigrants and that is the truth. thats because they think the world owes them something for being brough tup muslim. a bullet perhaps Edited August 19, 2014 by Ggib Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on.....Moderates like the Pesh Merga and The Iranians who are dieing daily fighting them you do talk some crapyou might think he is talking crap but dude thats what every non muslim sees regardless of culture You live in Spain what is the situation there as regards personal religious beliefs?open as fuuck! My mrs follows mayan and other ancient beliefs in 3 years living here i among the whole spectrum of everything else and the only shall we say group causing bloody issues is the muslim immigrants and that is the truth. morrocans and north Africans ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Can we, as a forum, just clear up that just because you may be vehemently against a religion or the beliefs of someone or group of people does not make you a racist. Religions have followers from all ethnic groups. Not all Christians are black and not all practicing Buddhists are Hollywood stars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Its is you who is spouting crap with you deceit, victim card ,deflections ,and straw man arguments . ,If the Sunni and Shiite don't hate each other then why are they beheading each other ??? Under sharia law YOU are allowed to marry non- Muslim women after they've "voluntarily converted" so the children become Islamic like you , but kuffar like me are not allowed to marry a Muslim women who will probably be married to her cousin... Edited August 19, 2014 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,925 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on.....Moderates like the Pesh Merga and The Iranians who are dieing daily fighting them you do talk some crapyou might think he is talking crap but dude thats what every non muslim sees regardless of culture You live in Spain what is the situation there as regards personal religious beliefs?open as fuuck! My mrs follows mayan and other ancient beliefs in 3 years living here i among the whole spectrum of everything else and the only shall we say group causing bloody issues is the muslim immigrants and that is the truth. morrocans and north Africans ?Actually yes... And Pakis (thats allowed here lol) and arabs and Turkish and Banglis and every other bloody crazy place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 And not all people with hooks or back packs are muslim Captain Hook or Hunch back of Notre Dam for instance 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Its is you who is spouting crap with you deceit, victim card ,deflections ,and straw man arguments . ,If the Sunni and Shiite don't hate each other then why are they beheading each other ??? Under sharia law YOU are allowed to marries non- Muslim women after they've "voluntarily converted" so the children become Islamic like you , but kuffar like me are not allowed to marry a Muslim women who will probably be married to he cousin... We can marry women from the 4 books if you know what they are which I doubt you are flapping in the wind like your bottom lip what makes you think a muslim woman would want to marry you Mr UKIP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Its is you who is spouting crap with you deceit, victim card ,deflections ,and straw man arguments . ,If the Sunni and Shiite don't hate each other then why are they beheading each other ??? Under sharia law YOU are allowed to marries non- Muslim women after they've "voluntarily converted" so the children become Islamic like you , but kuffar like me are not allowed to marry a Muslim women who will probably be married to he cousin... I think the same applies to Orthodox Jews doesn't it? And evangelicals. And Seventh Day Eventists. And I don't think it's welcomed with open arms if a catholic marries a Protestant over the river or are we passed that now? If you get married in church you are done so in the presence of God wether you like it or not. Babies are still circumcised, baptised and christened without freedom of choice as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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