Whats The Most Peaceful Religion?

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

Personally, and mean this in the nicest way, but no.....I don't think you have any "right""Right" implies that you are owed something, and if your committed to the team for life then fair enough, however if you simply hitching a ride for all you can get out of it until such times as you are ready to get off the bus then that is a parasitic relationship and to my mind you should have been shown the door.As I said, not trying to be horrible, just expressing my honest take on things

I have to disagree.

 

Loads of young families wait until their kids have got an established education and then become citizens of other countries, a few good friends have done the exact same thing.

 

If you abide by the system then you have every right to what the system has to offer. You haven't signed a contract for a life in the UK. I could take my education and go off to countries that have accepted me, that puts me in the same boat as Desert. He's paid into the system (more than can be said some) and played by the rules and he has the right.

 

To have the right doesn't mean you are owed it means you are entitled which totally different.

 

Mushroom has, I assume a UK education but chooses to apply that abroad. Isn't any different really.

 

If anyone is to blame it's the system but that system states that Desert and his family is entitled to or has the right to a state education and the same opportunities as anyone else's child.

 

We finally agree on some thing I will be paying for my Daughters University course purely because I dont want to burden her with a 30,000 pound debt at the end of her studies my other children were all educated abroad . I am not sponging nothing or getting a free ride so you who assume we are you tell me how I own property here payed for by funds of my own not mortgage and everything I own is paid for not on finance or HP so where the free ride comes from I do get NHS treatment but pay for my prescription though I dont need to. How am i Sponging

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

Wilf top comment and seconded I respect the chap too.

Desert I am skirting the boundaries as that is the facts it was rhetorical

but do answer the questions please

The Qran when first revealed talked of stoning later it was revised and suggested to confine the woman in home, The Christian Bible also talks of stoning and didnt Jesus sayx"Let him without sin cast the first stone that would apply in is;lam also a s jesus is also one of our prophets, Alcohol; was permitted when the fist parts of the Qran were revealed but later it was made forbidden because of the negative effects it has, Many muslims disregard this ban and drink maybe half the ones who get involved in the shit behaviour are drinking and drug taking. No woman child or even male deserves or should be raped In Saudia rapists are hanged , I am not a fan of Saudis but some of the punishments are well thought out drug trafficking rape robbery all carry the Death penalty. It does not matter colour religion or cast no one could justify rape in the begining of the Qran sexual relations with slave girls were permitted later they were forbidden outside marriage , When the final revalations of the Qran were made it was complete for all time no changes but orders laws Hadiths have to be read from various verses and chapters before a judgement or afinal definative order is given Awoman can approach the Shariat court for a Divorce if justifiable grounds are their it is much easier for the male to divorce though just by pronouncing it I didnt write the Qran so dont ask me to justify it

 

but women are still stoned in Muslim countries but not here for century's so not all are confined to home

 

That is the fault of the stoners the ISIS claim to be Muslim and want to circumcise 4 million women in Iraq that is not islamic or in the Qran males are circimcised but not females those in Africa that are is by tribal custom or tradition it is not permitted in islam neither is stoning blame the man not the Book

Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred

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so i guess we can all agree islam wont make the top 10

[hutch6 550]

so i guess we can all agree islam wont make the top 10

 

Ha ha ha!!

 

What about that stuff David Icke came out with? I don't think they've done anything bad except calling the Queen a giant space lizard which might be offensive to Daily Express readers. Can you still get Diana memorabilia from the Express?

Edited August 19, 2014 by hutch6

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

Wilf top comment and seconded I respect the chap too.

Desert I am skirting the boundaries as that is the facts it was rhetorical

but do answer the questions please

The Qran when first revealed talked of stoning later it was revised and suggested to confine the woman in home, The Christian Bible also talks of stoning and didnt Jesus sayx"Let him without sin cast the first stone that would apply in is;lam also a s jesus is also one of our prophets, Alcohol; was permitted when the fist parts of the Qran were revealed but later it was made forbidden because of the negative effects it has, Many muslims disregard this ban and drink maybe half the ones who get involved in the shit behaviour are drinking and drug taking. No woman child or even male deserves or should be raped In Saudia rapists are hanged , I am not a fan of Saudis but some of the punishments are well thought out drug trafficking rape robbery all carry the Death penalty. It does not matter colour religion or cast no one could justify rape in the begining of the Qran sexual relations with slave girls were permitted later they were forbidden outside marriage , When the final revalations of the Qran were made it was complete for all time no changes but orders laws Hadiths have to be read from various verses and chapters before a judgement or afinal definative order is given Awoman can approach the Shariat court for a Divorce if justifiable grounds are their it is much easier for the male to divorce though just by pronouncing it I didnt write the Qran so dont ask me to justify it

 

but women are still stoned in Muslim countries but not here for century's so not all are confined to home

 

That is the fault of the stoners the ISIS claim to be Muslim and want to circumcise 4 million women that is not islamic or in the Qran males are circimcised but not females those in africa that are is by tribal custom or tradition it is not permitted in islam neither is stoning blame the man not the Book

 

theres the thing if a group of people stoned someone here now no matter why they had done it would be seen as a crime not a religious act

[hutch6 550]

 

 

 

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

 

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

Personally, and mean this in the nicest way, but no.....I don't think you have any "right""Right" implies that you are owed something, and if your committed to the team for life then fair enough, however if you simply hitching a ride for all you can get out of it until such times as you are ready to get off the bus then that is a parasitic relationship and to my mind you should have been shown the door.As I said, not trying to be horrible, just expressing my honest take on things

I have to disagree.

Loads of young families wait until their kids have got an established education and then become citizens of other countries, a few good friends have done the exact same thing.

If you abide by the system then you have every right to what the system has to offer. You haven't signed a contract for a life in the UK. I could take my education and go off to countries that have accepted me, that puts me in the same boat as Desert. He's paid into the system (more than can be said some) and played by the rules and he has the right.

To have the right doesn't mean you are owed it means you are entitled which totally different.

Mushroom has, I assume a UK education but chooses to apply that abroad. Isn't any different really.

If anyone is to blame it's the system but that system states that Desert and his family is entitled to or has the right to a state education and the same opportunities as anyone else's child.

We finally agree on some thing I will be paying for my Daughters University course purely because I dont want to burden her with a 30,000 pound debt at the end of her studies my other children were all educated abroad . I am not sponging nothing or getting a free ride so you who assume we are you tell me how I own property here payed for by funds of my own not mortgage and everything I own is paid for not on finance or HP so where the free ride comes from I do get NHS treatment but pay for my prescription though I dont need to. How am i Sponging

Huh?!?

 

I never disagreed with you about anything.

[neems 2,406]

 

 

 

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

 

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

Personally, and mean this in the nicest way, but no.....I don't think you have any "right""Right" implies that you are owed something, and if your committed to the team for life then fair enough, however if you simply hitching a ride for all you can get out of it until such times as you are ready to get off the bus then that is a parasitic relationship and to my mind you should have been shown the door.As I said, not trying to be horrible, just expressing my honest take on things

I have to disagree.

Loads of young families wait until their kids have got an established education and then become citizens of other countries, a few good friends have done the exact same thing.

If you abide by the system then you have every right to what the system has to offer. You haven't signed a contract for a life in the UK. I could take my education and go off to countries that have accepted me, that puts me in the same boat as Desert. He's paid into the system (more than can be said some) and played by the rules and he has the right.

To have the right doesn't mean you are owed it means you are entitled which totally different.

Mushroom has, I assume a UK education but chooses to apply that abroad. Isn't any different really.

If anyone is to blame it's the system but that system states that Desert and his family is entitled to or has the right to a state education and the same opportunities as anyone else's child.

We finally agree on some thing I will be paying for my Daughters University course purely because I dont want to burden her with a 30,000 pound debt at the end of her studies my other children were all educated abroad . I am not sponging nothing or getting a free ride so you who assume we are you tell me how I own property here payed for by funds of my own not mortgage and everything I own is paid for not on finance or HP so where the free ride comes from I do get NHS treatment but pay for my prescription though I dont need to. How am i Sponging

just going off what you've written here and if it's all true,you seem like a decent enough fella.

 

but this isn't were you or your people belong,it's an instinct I think we all have here,people make excuses blaming Islam,culture differences etc to avoid the R word.

 

 

but it's all bollocks,people lying to themselves.

[desertbred 5,490]

right now men as much as i disagree with islam it wasnt a thread to attack desertbred, fairplay to him for answering the questions put to him, just hope he can see the problems that this mass forced immigration has created with joe public. it doesnt look good for the future as it looks like shitslam and christianity are on a collision course on these isles. but men dont be asking quetions on coarsing, fox hunting etc no need to incriminate yourselves

I agree that a much stricter immigration policy is needed but it shouldnt be restricted to those who can buy the way in , this is an island qwith a finite amount of space and resources but the Government makes the immigration policies and grants visas to people like abu hamza an Qitab and co are muslims to blame for them being permitted many of them were expelled from their original countries by muslims for being b*****ds.

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ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on.....

[hutch6 550]

 

 

 

 

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

Personally, and mean this in the nicest way, but no.....I don't think you have any "right""Right" implies that you are owed something, and if your committed to the team for life then fair enough, however if you simply hitching a ride for all you can get out of it until such times as you are ready to get off the bus then that is a parasitic relationship and to my mind you should have been shown the door.As I said, not trying to be horrible, just expressing my honest take on things

I have to disagree.

Loads of young families wait until their kids have got an established education and then become citizens of other countries, a few good friends have done the exact same thing.

If you abide by the system then you have every right to what the system has to offer. You haven't signed a contract for a life in the UK. I could take my education and go off to countries that have accepted me, that puts me in the same boat as Desert. He's paid into the system (more than can be said some) and played by the rules and he has the right.

To have the right doesn't mean you are owed it means you are entitled which totally different.

Mushroom has, I assume a UK education but chooses to apply that abroad. Isn't any different really.

If anyone is to blame it's the system but that system states that Desert and his family is entitled to or has the right to a state education and the same opportunities as anyone else's child.

We finally agree on some thing I will be paying for my Daughters University course purely because I dont want to burden her with a 30,000 pound debt at the end of her studies my other children were all educated abroad . I am not sponging nothing or getting a free ride so you who assume we are you tell me how I own property here payed for by funds of my own not mortgage and everything I own is paid for not on finance or HP so where the free ride comes from I do get NHS treatment but pay for my prescription though I dont need to. How am i Sponging

just going off what you've written here and if it's all true,you seem like a decent enough fella.

but this isn't were you or your people belong,it's an instinct I think we all have here,people make excuses blaming Islam,culture differences etc to avoid the R word.

but it's all bollocks,people lying to themselves.

The "R word"? Religion?

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right now men as much as i disagree with islam it wasnt a thread to attack desertbred, fairplay to him for answering the questions put to him, just hope he can see the problems that this mass forced immigration has created with joe public. it doesnt look good for the future as it looks like shitslam and christianity are on a collision course on these isles. but men dont be asking quetions on coarsing, fox hunting etc no need to incriminate yourselves

I agree that a much stricter immigration policy is needed but it shouldnt be restricted to those who can buy the way in , this is an island qwith a finite amount of space and resources but the Government makes the immigration policies and grants visas to people like abu hamza an Qitab and co are muslims to blame for them being permitted many of them were expelled from their original countries by muslims for being b*****ds.

 

well their countries of origin are part blame too for they passed a problem on instead of making them disappear . but they all came to gb because the soft kunts here put laws in place to protect them instead of proper punishment

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[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

 

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

Personally, and mean this in the nicest way, but no.....I don't think you have any "right""Right" implies that you are owed something, and if your committed to the team for life then fair enough, however if you simply hitching a ride for all you can get out of it until such times as you are ready to get off the bus then that is a parasitic relationship and to my mind you should have been shown the door.As I said, not trying to be horrible, just expressing my honest take on things

I have to disagree.

Loads of young families wait until their kids have got an established education and then become citizens of other countries, a few good friends have done the exact same thing.

If you abide by the system then you have every right to what the system has to offer. You haven't signed a contract for a life in the UK. I could take my education and go off to countries that have accepted me, that puts me in the same boat as Desert. He's paid into the system (more than can be said some) and played by the rules and he has the right.

To have the right doesn't mean you are owed it means you are entitled which totally different.

Mushroom has, I assume a UK education but chooses to apply that abroad. Isn't any different really.

If anyone is to blame it's the system but that system states that Desert and his family is entitled to or has the right to a state education and the same opportunities as anyone else's child.

We finally agree on some thing I will be paying for my Daughters University course purely because I dont want to burden her with a 30,000 pound debt at the end of her studies my other children were all educated abroad . I am not sponging nothing or getting a free ride so you who assume we are you tell me how I own property here payed for by funds of my own not mortgage and everything I own is paid for not on finance or HP so where the free ride comes from I do get NHS treatment but pay for my prescription though I dont need to. How am i Sponging

just going off what you've written here and if it's all true,you seem like a decent enough fella.

 

but this isn't were you or your people belong,it's an instinct I think we all have here,people make excuses blaming Islam,culture differences etc to avoid the R word.

 

 

but it's all bollocks,people lying to themselves.

 

How can football matches cricket matches etc take place between all nations and religions but people cant discuss? may be all future conflicts should be decided on the playing fields Oh wait a minute they are on the playing fields of Eton

[desertbred 5,490]

ISIS are like the footballing superstars with the moderates all on the grandstands cheering them on.....

Moderates like the Pesh Merga and The Iranians who are dieing daily fighting them you do talk some crap

[desertbred 5,490]

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Dont know about mosques most are supermarkets and snooker halls blame the Muslims rather than the lapsed Christians