hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting ban Erm......... You've admitted to breaking the hunting ban law. Now you're trying to back pedal? Sorry, not falling for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nomoon 542 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Iran became persia then it came back to being Iran our history is one of the oldest civilisations in the world. Unity dont make me laugh is that why the referendum on Scotland is up coming why theFfree State want the 6 Counties back and Welsh nationalists want there own government That's completely different, the separatists of these places can't leave without the agreement of their unionist neighbours. You can! Separatist/unionist divisions are inconveniently purely political and not geographical despite the separatists wanting a geographical divide. Furthermore, the vast majority of UK separatists still consider themselves my brothers. The ones that don't I hold equal contempt for. I have no problem at all with your choice of religion or skin colour, I'm rather liberal like that. But I do have a problem with your 'you (UK) & us (Iran)' attitude. all the lads I hunt with who know me are more than happy to be out with me as I am with them many of them are EX British forces also we dont have a problem getting on because we leave politics. religion out of our relationships and enjoy each others company. I have many friends and relatives who are ex forces and we have a code of full respect as professional soldiers we are not rag tag and bobtail we trained and did our service and some of us survived . what we supposed to do hate each other you start the hate business your judgement gets clouded and you would not last long in a combat zone like they say you suck it up and move on.. got to agree with desertbred here ,i have been both sides of the fence,and have found those that practice true islamic teachings are a gemtle kind people, fanactics come in many guises atb mc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting ban Erm......... You've admitted to breaking the hunting ban law. Now you're trying to back pedal? Sorry, not falling for that. I dont give a flying---- I know what I do and the lads who I go out with are on here also so can confirm it, but more to the point I dont have to justify feck all to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think Desertbred illustrates very well a point which most of our politicians seem to miss and that is, no matter how welcome you make Muslims in this country, their first and only loyalty will always be Islam. I'm not saying I knock them for having that kind of faith, but the western powers seem to continually fail to grasp that and it's what makes them very dangerous to admit to your country and harder to completely intergrate. At the end of the day, right or wrong, the Koran and fellow Muslims come first every time. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting banErm......... You've admitted to breaking the hunting ban law.Now you're trying to back pedal? Sorry, not falling for that. I dont give a flying---- I know what I do and the lads who I go out with are on here also so can confirm it, but more to the point I dont have to justify feck all to you Getting a bit touchy!! I'm just asking how you can break a uk law which in turn breaks sharia law and be a strict Muslim. I'm not judging you, Allah will do that just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think Desertbred illustrates very well a point which most of our politicians seem to miss and that is, no matter how welcome you make Muslims in this country, their first and only loyalty will always be Islam. I'm not saying I knock them for having that kind of faith, but the western powers seem to continually fail to grasp that and it's what makes them very dangerous to admit to your country and harder to completely intergrate. At the end of the day, right or wrong, the Koran and fellow Muslims come first every time. And that's why they will never ever integrate into our society or culture ........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think Desertbred illustrates very well a point which most of our politicians seem to miss and that is, no matter how welcome you make Muslims in this country, their first and only loyalty will always be Islam. I'm not saying I knock them for having that kind of faith, but the western powers seem to continually fail to grasp that and it's what makes them very dangerous to admit to your country and harder to completely intergrate. At the end of the day, right or wrong, the Koran and fellow Muslims come first every time. Islam and Humanity come first there are many alledged Muslims many of them so called leaders that I would willingly slot dont assume we are all fanatics just because of our faith and resolve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting banErm......... You've admitted to breaking the hunting ban law.Now you're trying to back pedal? Sorry, not falling for that.I dont give a flying---- I know what I do and the lads who I go out with are on here also so can confirm it, but more to the point I dont have to justify feck all to you Getting a bit touchy!! I'm just asking how you can break a uk law which in turn breaks sharia law and be a strict Muslim. I'm not judging you, Allah will do that just fine. go and do some study then come back when you have something to discuss you are poacher watch on here or maybe even something else? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) I've heard it all now, Britain is probably militarily the most succesfull country in world history and apparently we have a lot to learn about combat..... For such a hater Desertbred you pick a hell of a place to reside. Your lack of allegiance to the country that harbours you is disgusting. The country does not harbour me I live here just the same as any one else I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting ban so how your rights are any greater than mine? Combat is something that is adapted to terrain location and foe you think You have a monopoly on conflict the persian empire military history goes back a lot longer the GB You's couldnt do fook all with those Spartans tho Desertbred could you more recent Afghanistan comes to mind what did you do? Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting banErm......... You've admitted to breaking the hunting ban law.Now you're trying to back pedal? Sorry, not falling for that.I dont give a flying---- I know what I do and the lads who I go out with are on here also so can confirm it, but more to the point I dont have to justify feck all to youGetting a bit touchy!!I'm just asking how you can break a uk law which in turn breaks sharia law and be a strict Muslim. I'm not judging you, Allah will do that just fine. go and do some study then come back when you have something to discuss you are poacher watch on here or maybe even something else? I fail to see what I should be studying as I've made a valid point. That fact you dismiss it and carry on doing what your doing is fine by me, I'm not the one that has to face a God of any kind and be judged. You've brown a religious law in the religion you choose to follow and deny this. Then you get all heated with me about it. I'm just trying to understand the whole concept of you being so righteous in your beliefs but fundamentally you break one of the main laws of that belief system. I think it is you that needs to get clarification on the matter as I put it to a colleague who is a top lad but also a very strict Muslim so I'm not making this stuff up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting banErm......... You've admitted to breaking the hunting ban law.Now you're trying to back pedal? Sorry, not falling for that.I dont give a flying---- I know what I do and the lads who I go out with are on here also so can confirm it, but more to the point I dont have to justify feck all to youGetting a bit touchy!!I'm just asking how you can break a uk law which in turn breaks sharia law and be a strict Muslim. I'm not judging you, Allah will do that just fine.go and do some study then come back when you have something to discuss you are poacher watch on here or maybe even something else? I fail to see what I should be studying as I've made a valid point. That fact you dismiss it and carry on doing what your doing is fine by me, I'm not the one that has to face a God of any kind and be judged. You've brown a religious law in the religion you choose to follow and deny this. Then you get all heated with me about it. I'm just trying to understand the whole concept of you being so righteous in your beliefs but fundamentally you break one of the main laws of that belief system. I think it is you that needs to get clarification on the matter as I put it to a colleague who is a top lad but also a very strict Muslim so I'm not making this stuff up. I probably have studied islam longer and under better teachers than your colleague if he wishes to discuss islamic fiqr and jurisprudence with me he is more than welcome now go tell him I hunt with dogs and hawks as I have said to you and in islamic law this is permitted in the Qran and as it complies with British law under the hunting with dogs act your colleage either you have not given the full facts or his knowledge is limited ask him which Hawza he studied at or is he a chennia? Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I pay my taxes dont break the law other than the hunting banErm......... You've admitted to breaking the hunting ban law.Now you're trying to back pedal? Sorry, not falling for that.I dont give a flying---- I know what I do and the lads who I go out with are on here also so can confirm it, but more to the point I dont have to justify feck all to youGetting a bit touchy!!I'm just asking how you can break a uk law which in turn breaks sharia law and be a strict Muslim. I'm not judging you, Allah will do that just fine.go and do some study then come back when you have something to discuss you are poacher watch on here or maybe even something else?I fail to see what I should be studying as I've made a valid point. That fact you dismiss it and carry on doing what your doing is fine by me, I'm not the one that has to face a God of any kind and be judged. You've brown a religious law in the religion you choose to follow and deny this.Then you get all heated with me about it. I'm just trying to understand the whole concept of you being so righteous in your beliefs but fundamentally you break one of the main laws of that belief system. I think it is you that needs to get clarification on the matter as I put it to a colleague who is a top lad but also a very strict Muslim so I'm not making this stuff up. I probably have studied islam longer and under better teachers than your colleague if he wishes to discuss islamic fiqr and jurisprudence with me he is more than welcome now go tell him I hunt with dogs and hawks as I have said to you and in islamic law this is permitted in the Qran and as it complies with British law under the hunting with dogs act your colleage either you have not given the full facts or his knowledge is limited ask him which Hawza he studied at or is he a chennia? But you didn't say you hunted within the law. I've quoted your words where you say you abide by the law except the hunting ban law, therefore admitting that you are aware you've broken the law. These are your words not my accusations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Reading this has been, well, interesting to say the least. It's not often a thread contains as many historical, geographical and religious inaccuracies , but as we used to say; " never let the truth get in the way of a good dit" ! LOL ! DB, I respect your dogged defence of your religion, but I would be more worried at attracting the attention of the security services than arguing with people on a hunting site, some of the things you have posted , it's not a good time to be pro Islam, anti western. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Maxhardcore you Imagine we also are not warrior stock: Even my own line has a martial line going back more the 1400 years. Go back far enough Ghenghais Khan Hulooku Khan andTimbalein are there so what is your point hope you dont imagine we scare easily LOL even Alexander Crossed the Kaukurum and many of his soldiers ,married and settled there, the MongoL;s of Khan from the steppes are accepted as the best martial race the world has ever seen Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Reading this has been, well, interesting to say the least. It's not often a thread contains as many historical, geographical and religious inaccuracies , but as we used to say; " never let the truth get in the way of a good dit" ! LOL ! DB, I respect your dogged defence of your religion, but I would be more worried at attracting the attention of the security services than arguing with people on a hunting site, some of the things you have posted , it's not a good time to be pro Islam, anti western. suprising though it might seem I have very good relations with the security services I was cleared by them to live here LOL I am not anti west I dont happen to agree with some western governments in a lot of their actions, just as a lot of the midle eastern governments are wrong . people speak their mind then maybe progress can be made in finding solutions instead of bull shit politicians sending young men from all sides to their deaths for what ignorance or misunderstanding. Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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