WILF 46,811 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Let's not forget, men make all these conflicts and wars......they simply use their "religion" as an excuse for them. Always have, always will. These things have nothing to do with faith, it's just one lot of shitty human beings doing someone to another lot of shitty human beings with a few dudes manipulating things for personal gain and a whole lot of innocent people caught in the middle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 you say interest is not extortianate but isnt interest against sharia beliefs there fore you dont pay interest and has why the need for sharia courts is there not systems in place that already cover theses i think this country has been /is very tolerant of muslims and there beliefs the fact that some countries have banned hallal slaughter and the burka shows this its like some cities allowed the raising of the palaestian flag to be flown to help raise whats happening there and marches saying they need help yet you say we are interfering in the middle east you cant have it all ways Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 you say interest is not extortianate but isnt interest against sharia beliefs there fore you dont pay interest and has why the need for sharia courts is there not systems in place that already cover theses i think this country has been /is very tolerant of muslims and there beliefs the fact that some countries have banned hallal slaughter and the burka shows this its like some cities allowed the raising of the palaestian flag to be flown to help raise whats happening there and marches saying they need help yet you say we are interfering in the middle east you cant have it all ways yea like downtown belfast, fcuking joke, its turning into a country of gurny kunts and constant protesting about everyhting and anything, just last week there was a protest about the right to protest because there was nothing to protest about so they said why waste the day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 church of the flying spaghetti monster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) you say interest is not extortianate but isnt interest against sharia beliefs there fore you dont pay interest and has why the need for sharia courts is there not systems in place that already cover theses i think this country has been /is very tolerant of muslims and there beliefs the fact that some countries have banned hallal slaughter and the burka shows this its like some cities allowed the raising of the palaestian flag to be flown to help raise whats happening there and marches saying they need help yet you say we are interfering in the middle east you cant have it all ways You will if you read it properly see I said interest is extortianate.Islamic marriage is a contract between a male and female certain conditions have to be fulfilled which are not enforceable under British law for example in British Law the spouse is entitled to 50%or may be even more according to circumstance in Islam being a contractm a very similar thing to a prenup is agreed where a certain amount of money or property is agreed to become the right of the woman this can be as much or as little as is agreed by the parties this is part of the marriage contract where as a British marriage is by licence which is not the islamic way as Allah is the witness as far as our laws are concerned where as statutes of parliament decide your laws.Now slaughter with out stunning Halal means killed while speaking the name of Allah over it and asking to be allowed to take this life, When you go hunting do you stun the quarry before it is Killed the answer is no, I can Halal a goat and it will bleed out within 30 seconds so where is the suffering the ones given shocks or bolts in the brain can take longer to become unconscious, It is only in the last probably 35/30 years this humane stunning has been introduced many families small holders, farmers have killed by cutting the throat of the animal or poultry for hundreds if not thousands of years. As for Palastine who actually signed up for the division of Palastinian lands in 1947 to create a homeland for the jews? the same people who signed to allow the division of India to create East and West Pakistan in 1947 and who took land from kurdistan, and the surrounding countries to form Kuwait and Iraq this is one of the major reasons that demonstrations are taken out here most of the mistakes made in division of countries were made by the British empire the same situation is evident also in Africa and Didnt America also fight a war of independance for the very same reasons? Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 The trouble with Israel is the Palastinians look at it and think that such a successful, prosperous and free country that should be their's. The problem is, if it was a Muslim country then it would be just another backwards and unlivable shit hole like any other Muslim country without oil. The Palastinian population would be just as oppressed as they are now, probably poorer and would be trying there best to bullshit their way into Europe and the USA, as they do now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,898 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 The trouble with Israel is the Palastinians look at it and think that such a successful, prosperous and free country that should be their's. The problem is, if it was a Muslim country then it would be just another backwards and unlivable shit hole like any other Muslim country without oil. The Palastinian population would be just as oppressed as they are now, probably poorer and would be trying there best to bullshit their way into Europe and the USA, as they do now. that the word (oil) and most other country's in the world , wouldn't give a toss about them if it were for oil 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) desert as you know using tayiqqa (deception) to forward the goal of islam and showing a victim's face / blaming everyone else is all part of mohammad's sunah (his perfect example for all muslims ) Just to be perfectly clear do you agree with your late supreme leader below ? Edited August 19, 2014 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,925 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Desert if I went to a Muslim country and started acting all western the shitstorm that would follow probably with my head and body seperated and paraded on youfukintube would be guaranteed so how about we start doing that to Muslims in our countries??? Seems to work for you guys re westerners behaving 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ggib 370 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 desert as you know using tayiqqa (deception) to forward the goal of islam and showing a victim's face / blaming everyone else is all part of mohammad's sunah (his perfect example for all muslims ) Just to be perfectly clear do you agree with your late supreme leader below ? sick fcuks whoever agrees with that, cliff richards, rolfaroo etc will all be converting to shitslam soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 you say interest is not extortianate but isnt interest against sharia beliefs there fore you dont pay interest and has why the need for sharia courts is there not systems in place that already cover theses i think this country has been /is very tolerant of muslims and there beliefs the fact that some countries have banned hallal slaughter and the burka shows this its like some cities allowed the raising of the palaestian flag to be flown to help raise whats happening there and marches saying they need help yet you say we are interfering in the middle east you cant have it all ways You will if you read it properly see I said interest is extortianate.Islamic marriage is a contract between a male and female certain conditions have to be fulfilled which are not enforceable under British law for example in British Law the spouse is entitled to 50%or may be even more according to circumstance in Islam being a contractm a very similar thing to a prenup is agreed where a certain amount of money or property is agreed to become the right of the woman this can be as much or as little as is agreed by the parties this is part of the marriage contract where as a British marriage is by licence which is not the islamic way as Allah is the witness as far as our laws are concerned where as statutes of parliament decide your laws.Now slaughter with out stunning Halal means killed while speaking the name of Allah over it and asking to be allowed to take this life, When you go hunting do you stun the quarry before it is Killed the answer is no, I can Halal a goat and it will bleed out within 30 seconds so where is the suffering the ones given shocks or bolts in the brain can take longer to become unconscious, It is only in the last probably 35/30 years this humane stunning has been introduced many families small holders, farmers have killed by cutting the throat of the animal or poultry for hundreds if not thousands of years. As for Palastine who actually signed up for the division of Palastinian lands in 1947 to create a homeland for the jews? the same people who signed to allow the division of India to create East and West Pakistan in 1947 and who took land from kurdistan, and the surrounding countries to form Kuwait and Iraq this is one of the major reasons that demonstrations are taken out here most of the mistakes made in division of countries were made by the British empire the same situation is evident also in Africa and Didnt America also fight a war of independance for the very same reasons? India must eternally grateful to us that they don't have all those Pakistanis sucking the life blood out of their country. They have even managed to create quite a successful democracy in a challenging environment. More than can be said about the arse pit to the north of them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 desert as you know using tayiqqa (deception) to forward the goal of islam and showing a victim's face / blaming everyone else is all part of mohammad's sunah (his perfect example for all muslims ) Just to be perfectly clear do you agree with your late supreme leader below ? So you recognise the long game too then. You are what I call a progressive, unfortunately by the time the politicians realise/admit this reality, it will be far too late. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) yes but desert that marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and can be comsummated when the girls are aged 7/8 women are allowed to be beaten and only have half the rights of men at best including not being able to divorce a man women are encouraged to be surpressed under islamic law thats including the punishments dished out for the same thing and no i have never stunned a animal i have caught but i have never had the facilties at hand to do it unlike slaughter houses that practise hallal slaughter and were do you get the fact a animal dies quicker or less painful by being bled without stunning when the vets topman said he would like to see hallal slaughter stopped in this country because its cruel and out of interest d/bred are you a convert or was you born a muslim Edited August 19, 2014 by blackmaggie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) desert as you know using tayiqqa (deception) to forward the goal of islam and showing a victim's face / blaming everyone else is all part of mohammad's sunah (his perfect example for all muslims ) Just to be perfectly clear do you agree with your late supreme leader below ? this is absolute bollocks you find any concocted shite on the internet show the publishers of the book and the date and location of publication.Are the people recently in the news Saville Rolph Harris, Stuart Hall, Gary Glitter, Dave Lee Travis, William Roache, Cliff Richards, Cyril Smith to name a few "Christians or Muslims? and the tolerance for peadophilia is a lot higher here than any islamic country get caught kiddy fiddling in an islamic country and you will be dead probably before you even get before a court Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 you say interest is not extortianate but isnt interest against sharia beliefs there fore you dont pay interest and has why the need for sharia courts is there not systems in place that already cover theses i think this country has been /is very tolerant of muslims and there beliefs the fact that some countries have banned hallal slaughter and the burka shows this its like some cities allowed the raising of the palaestian flag to be flown to help raise whats happening there and marches saying they need help yet you say we are interfering in the middle east you cant have it all ways You will if you read it properly see I said interest is extortianate.Islamic marriage is a contract between a male and female certain conditions have to be fulfilled which are not enforceable under British law for example in British Law the spouse is entitled to 50%or may be even more according to circumstance in Islam being a contractm a very similar thing to a prenup is agreed where a certain amount of money or property is agreed to become the right of the woman this can be as much or as little as is agreed by the parties this is part of the marriage contract where as a British marriage is by licence which is not the islamic way as Allah is the witness as far as our laws are concerned where as statutes of parliament decide your laws.Now slaughter with out stunning Halal means killed while speaking the name of Allah over it and asking to be allowed to take this life, When you go hunting do you stun the quarry before it is Killed the answer is no, I can Halal a goat and it will bleed out within 30 seconds so where is the suffering the ones given shocks or bolts in the brain can take longer to become unconscious, It is only in the last probably 35/30 years this humane stunning has been introduced many families small holders, farmers have killed by cutting the throat of the animal or poultry for hundreds if not thousands of years. As for Palastine who actually signed up for the division of Palastinian lands in 1947 to create a homeland for the jews? the same people who signed to allow the division of India to create East and West Pakistan in 1947 and who took land from kurdistan, and the surrounding countries to form Kuwait and Iraq this is one of the major reasons that demonstrations are taken out here most of the mistakes made in division of countries were made by the British empire the same situation is evident also in Africa and Didnt America also fight a war of independance for the very same reasons? India must eternally grateful to us that they don't have all those Pakistanis sucking the life blood out of their country. They have even managed to create quite a successful democracy in a challenging environment. More than can be said about the arse pit to the north of them. There are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan you have not got a clue what you are talking about numpty. Also go and look in Linco,lns inn in the high courts of justice the name of Mohammad appears as one of the greatest law givers the world has known show me any Islamic country where any British name appears as a great law giver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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