Whats The Most Peaceful Religion?

[Tiercel 6,986]

A questions I would like to ask.

 

In Islamic countries does the religious morals of the Koran take presence over the law of the land, or is the Koran the law of the land? I ask this question as when I was younger there were a few students from the UAE that were studying in Swansea, and used to come to our town for nights out and would drink and if they had the chance fornicate with WELSH women with the best of us.

 

One in particular Abdul was a great chap and I got along fine with him. His philosophy was that I am not in my country now so the laws that I was brought up with do not apply. Yet, he would only eat with his right hand. I must add that he was not alone with that way of thinking all of his group were of the same mind.

 

TC

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[Brigzy 1,298]

A questions I would like to ask.

 

In Islamic countries does the religious morals of the Koran take presence over the law of the land, or is the Koran the law of the land? I ask this question as when I was younger there were a few students from the UAE that were studying in Swansea, and used to come to our town for nights out and would drink and if they had the chance fornicate with WELSH women with the best of us.

 

One in particular Abdul was a great chap and I got along fine with him. His philosophy was that I am not in my country now so the laws that I was brought up with do not apply. Yet, he would only eat with his right hand. I must add that he was not alone with that way of thinking all of his group were of the same mind.

 

TC

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The Quran and the Hadiths are the law of the land in countries that practice Sharia law.

[desertbred 5,490]

You can count on one finger which country the Qran has precedence over the law of the land I will leave you to work it out. Yes many who claim to be Muslim drink, sleep around, take drugs and live the life of a Munafiq this is some one who has left the islamic way of life even though they know Allah and his Prophets teachings. I have lost count how many times I have told people Islam is choice nothing is compulsary in islam you cannot bring islam under the shadow of the sword. Worse thing is a hypocrit either believe or dont this is your choice just as I have a choice . Just as Christians are not all practicing many muslims are also no following the teachings of isam

Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred

[desertbred 5,490]

Let me ask you desert how hold you react if gangs of white men started raping your daughters and those of the muslim community specific because a 2 thousand year old book said it was ok to???? Or how about we just said fuckk you guys magna carta stands take ya sharia bollocks elsewhere?? Or how about this would you still want to live here if your wife gets raped and our laws say we stone her to death on a Saturday afternoon before football???

You are moving to the boundaries bringing my wife and daughter by implication into it dont,! as for rape I can not justify any rape even in times of war nothing justifyies rape or molestation I would kill a person if I witnessed a rape people should observe certain boundaries unfortunately they dont you ask me about stoning Then Qran talks of stoning later it is the guidance that the woman should be confined to home Even i Christianity stoning is talked of in the bible in the begining of the Qran alcohol was permitted when it was understood that in intoxication it could cause lots of problems it was made Haram in certain times certain laws have been revised and changed but one the revelation of the Qran was complete itisin its finalty for all time but islam itself is or should be a progressive faith unfortunately some want it to remain 1360 ago and some like ISIS wantto rewrite islamic guidance

Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred

[desertbred 5,490]

 

A questions I would like to ask.

 

In Islamic countries does the religious morals of the Koran take presence over the law of the land, or is the Koran the law of the land? I ask this question as when I was younger there were a few students from the UAE that were studying in Swansea, and used to come to our town for nights out and would drink and if they had the chance fornicate with WELSH women with the best of us.

 

One in particular Abdul was a great chap and I got along fine with him. His philosophy was that I am not in my country now so the laws that I was brought up with do not apply. Yet, he would only eat with his right hand. I must add that he was not alone with that way of thinking all of his group were of the same mind.

 

TC

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The Quran and the Hadiths are the law of the land in countries that practice Sharia law.

 

Pakistan claims to be an Islamic Republic it has shariat and in tandem Pakistan Penal code which is based on British Law from the Raj time, neither of them are compatible so how is it an Islamic republic other than by name

[blackmaggie 3,376]

 

yes but desert that marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and can be comsummated when the girls are aged 7/8 women are allowed to be beaten and only have half the rights of men at best including not being able to divorce a man women are encouraged to be surpressed under islamic law thats including the punishments dished out for the same thing and no i have never stunned a animal i have caught but i have never had the facilties at hand to do it unlike slaughter houses that practise hallal slaughter and were do you get the fact a animal dies quicker or less painful by being bled without stunning when the vets topman said he would like to see hallal slaughter stopped in this country because its cruel and out of interest d/bred are you a convert or was you born a muslim

the consumation of marriage takes place after puberty as does marriage do you know medically if girls have periods at 7/8 again factually wrong. More women are assaulted domestically daily in uk than in an islamic country Woman can divorce a man in islam so wrong again. in Britain women have been suppressed for centuries when did they get the vote. Many vets say stop hunting all together so I wont take guidance from them on halal slaughter . I am Muslim by birth My fathers family are from Banni Hashim and we are Syed so go read what syed are, a little knowledge in the wrong hands is a dangerous thing first ascertain facts before you start talking on subjects you obviously have little or no knowledge. Is Halal slaughter other than the prayer dedicating it in the name of Allah any different than the slaughter of animals all around the world that has been going on for thousands of years are you a tree hugger or a hunter?

 

your right d/bred they are 9 years old there was 5 cases in london alone were 5 9 years were married and inpregnated now im sure you will agree forget faiths etc there nothing more than young kids and has for the divorce bit does a woman not need her husband consent to divorce regardless of reason heres another a woman whos been raped cannot testify in court against her attackers and needs4 male testamonies to prove a rape if theres only female witnesses and shes married shes sentenced to death or 100 lashes if single its also stated his a man can beat his wife for rebelling theres plenty more you say you want your daughter to have a good education yet under islamic law is this not forbidden take that girl thats been traveling around the world after being shot for going to school and im not a tree hugger but have worked in slaughter houses for years and have seen first hand both sides so your argument on hallal doesnt hold for me anyway

[WILF 47,353]

Despite the fact that I detest the fact that your "only here for the beer" Desertbred, as you said that when all is said and done you will be going back (in a previous thread) I have to say I admire the way you continue to stand your ground in a fairly level headed manner despite a barrage of disagreement.

Fair play to you chap.

[paulus 26]

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

[hutch6 550]

Despite the fact that I detest the fact that your "only here for the beer" Desertbred, as you said that when all is said and done you will be going back (in a previous thread) I have to say I admire the way you continue to stand your ground in a fairly level headed manner despite a barrage of disagreement.Fair play to you chap.

Are you kidding?

 

I got a mouthful just for questioning what he wrote and then accused of being one thing or another off the back of it along with a barrage of swear words.

 

Level headed manner? I think not. Maybe when discussing historical or political discussion points but point out the finer point or fact a fundamental law or practice guidance has been broken and the flimsy house of cards he resides in comes tumbling down.

[desertbred 5,490]

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

[desertbred 5,490]

 

Despite the fact that I detest the fact that your "only here for the beer" Desertbred, as you said that when all is said and done you will be going back (in a previous thread) I have to say I admire the way you continue to stand your ground in a fairly level headed manner despite a barrage of disagreement.Fair play to you chap.

Are you kidding?

 

I got a mouthful just for questioning what he wrote and then accused of being one thing or another off the back of it along with a barrage of swear words.

 

Level headed manner? I think not. Maybe when discussing historical or political discussion points but point out the finer point or fact a fundamental law or practice guidance has been broken and the flimsy house of cards he resides in comes tumbling down.

 

you are avoiding bringing your friend I respond in kind ?

[paulus 26]

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

 

thats as may be but you still see it as "us" and "them" and thats your own words not mine

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

 

thats as may be but you still see it as "us" and "them" and thats your own words not mine

 

answer the question I have entitlement or not dont side step and waffle

[Tiercel 6,986]

Despite the fact that I detest the fact that your "only here for the beer" Desertbred, as you said that when all is said and done you will be going back (in a previous thread) I have to say I admire the way you continue to stand your ground in a fairly level headed manner despite a barrage of disagreement.

Fair play to you chap.

I was thinking the same thing at the beginning of this thread, I remember that last one and desertbred acquitted himself with honours. This thread though I think he has taken the bait and bit, pity really as he seems an honest chap who can give an insight of Islam perhaps we would not normally read.

 

TC

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

simple question if it was not for your daughters education would you have still chosen to live here and yes i do know the answer as you have said it before what your intentions for the future are, so basically your here for what this country can give you and your family once you have achieved this your off back to Iran, sorry but that is exactly what is wrong with immigration

But I have paid national insurance and tax here when I was young still pay taxes now I am old my wife worked in NHS till he retirement am I not entitled to have my daughter educated I and my wife will also get an OAP I will give mine two two village schools we finance in Afghanistan, My Father Fought in the Aliied forces inThialand and Burma during the war my mother worked in Cromwell hospital in London and Monsall fever hospital in Manchester one of my wifes ubcles Haidar Ali was awarded the VC in 1945 I think we have some justifiable right dont you?

 

thats as may be but you still see it as "us" and "them" and thats your own words not mine

 

answer the question I have entitlement or not dont side step and waffle

 

why not you have been doing it all day