wag 13 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 well i had a phone call from my mate oz saying that one of the pups out of my last litter that went to a pet home had been taken to an animal shelter, because it was too much for her . now before i let a pup go to anyone i always say that if there is a problem with the dog phone me and i will take the dog back no matter what the situation is. so i was pi**ed off with the woman for not phoning me . so i found out a bit more about what had happend with the dog. it turns out that the dog was too strong for her and it kept pulling her over and getting out. so she had to let it go ,so she phoned the local animal shelter up and they said they would take it at COST OF £100 yes £100 when she told me my jaw hit the floor i know that they have to keep the dog healthy but at £100. anyway i went to see them at the animal centre and said that i was the person that bred the pups and i could prove it and that i would like to take the dog back because i dont like the thought of it being in that place and i could provide a good healthy home for it and that i would be prepared to pay a donation . RIGHT THIS IS THE BIT THAT PI**ED ME OFF they said no because the dog has been signed over to them by the previous owner and that they was the legal owner of the dog now and i would have to go through a home check. i have to have a 6ft fence all the way round my house and i could not have any other dogs and it had to live in the house . then they would want a donation a minimum of £150 so i had a few harsh words to say im sorry but that just takes the p*ss. all i wanted is the dog to come home with me and they wouldnt even consider it and i know that if the dogs are there for more than 12 months they are destroyed.so my question is has anybody else had a problem like this before,and is there a way of getting the dog back legally. regards wag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Never heard quite the likes of that before, Wag. Sadly however, as you sold the Dog to the woman and she's now ~ not sure quite What the term should be! ~ but anyway, allowed this kennel to take signed for custody of it? It's legally their Dog, as far as I'm aware. Who and where are they anyway, just out of interest? Some local outfit, or a national? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,173 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Some of the so called 'rescue' centres have appalling records regarding how many dogs they put down. Nearly all of them have a non working home policy, and that even goes for ferrets as well with a lot of them. Can you not get a friend with all the necessary requirements regarding fencing to go and get the dog out? Failing that, would it be worth seeing the manager/director of the centre and put your case to them: explaining that the person who bought the dog off you reneged on the agreement to let you have the dog back? I know that without anything in writing that won't amount to much, or maybe you could twist the previous owner's arm and get them to sign something now but backdate it: if she is sorry to have let this happen to the dog then its worth a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogga 1 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) well i had a phone call from my mate oz saying that one of the pups out of my last litter that went to a pet home had been taken to an animal shelter, because it was too much for her . now before i let a pup go to anyone i always say that if there is a problem with the dog phone me and i will take the dog back no matter what the situation is. so i was pi**ed off with the woman for not phoning me . so i found out a bit more about what had happend with the dog. it turns out that the dog was too strong for her and it kept pulling her over and getting out. so she had to let it go ,so she phoned the local animal shelter up and they said they would take it at COST OF £100 yes £100 when she told me my jaw hit the floor i know that they have to keep the dog healthy but at £100. anyway i went to see them at the animal centre and said that i was the person that bred the pups and i could prove it and that i would like to take the dog back because i dont like the thought of it being in that place and i could provide a good healthy home for it and that i would be prepared to pay a donation . RIGHT THIS IS THE BIT THAT PI**ED ME OFF they said no because the dog has been signed over to them by the previous owner and that they was the legal owner of the dog now and i would have to go through a home check. i have to have a 6ft fence all the way round my house and i could not have any other dogs and it had to live in the house . then they would want a donation a minimum of £150 so i had a few harsh words to say im sorry but that just takes the p*ss. all i wanted is the dog to come home with me and they wouldnt even consider it and i know that if the dogs are there for more than 12 months they are destroyed.so my question is has anybody else had a problem like this before,and is there a way of getting the dog back legally. regards wag which rescue centre was it as a matter of interest?it sounds like they were trying to put you off.generally they wont let dogs go to working homes or have them live outdoors no matter what the kenneling situation is .but as for no other dogs that is crap and 6 ft fence is also crap as long as your garden is secure they should not have a problem but as i said i would be interested to know which one it was Edited October 17, 2007 by dogga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Tattoo and Microchip all your future litters and keep your details on the paperwork as a contact if the owners are not able to be contacted. If a dog bred by you ends up in a cat and dog home/shelter etc they will ring you and you can go and fetch the dog if you have the relevant paperwork (keep a copy back for yourself) I have done this a couple of times, it helps the rescue centre as it frees up space for another dog, it also gives them a bit of faith in breeders as not many people will do this, and rescue workers are notorious for being anti-breeding purely cos of the sheer numbers of abandoned, abused and neglected animals they see on a daily basis, and last but not least dogs you have bred often remember you even if you havent seen them since puppyhood, Ive had a couple come back here and they settled right in no problems. You can always rehome the dog to someone else if its not suited to living with you when it comes back to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wag 13 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 hi, its a private animal centre dont want to name it just in case it goes any further .skycat you know where i live and it is close to me and i have phoned the woman who i sold the pup too and she told them that its from working parents and she is willing to call them to ask if she can have the dog back . also i have heard from other people that they are real anti towards hunting people so this could be the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bill88 6 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 A*******s mate,they'll probably rehome it with some t*t,who's never had a dog before,they'll walk it once a fortnight and poison it with chocolate,and doggy treats.It amaze's me when i read there rules on rehoming,its absolute b******s! My sisters neighbour has a rescue dog,they leave it in the house on its own from 7 till 7,never feckin walk it,and feed it s***e.Its as fat as feck,and can hardly walk,yet its only 6 years old!! But it does have a nice sparkly collar,and a bone shaped id tag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,173 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Tattoo and Microchip all your future litters and keep your details on the paperwork as a contact if the owners are not able to be contacted. If a dog bred by you ends up in a cat and dog home/shelter etc they will ring you and you can go and fetch the dog if you have the relevant paperwork (keep a copy back for yourself) I have done this a couple of times, it helps the rescue centre as it frees up space for another dog, it also gives them a bit of faith in breeders as not many people will do this, and rescue workers are notorious for being anti-breeding purely cos of the sheer numbers of abandoned, abused and neglected animals they see on a daily basis, and last but not least dogs you have bred often remember you even if you havent seen them since puppyhood, Ive had a couple come back here and they settled right in no problems. You can always rehome the dog to someone else if its not suited to living with you when it comes back to you the only way to be sure! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cúagusgiorraí 57 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) `` Edited August 31, 2008 by cúagusgiorraà Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Beware some recues do house checks every year. You mean come round to your house and demand to see the dog ECT? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cúagusgiorraí 57 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Ya. So that they dont end up being abused or mal-treated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Fair anough. Good to know they have a happy life after. But it does seem they go over the top a wee bit. Still, Ireland has come a long way and before the rehoming was around, dogs really sufferd badly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cúagusgiorraí 57 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Wag, try to get that dog back! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest k9wpg Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Wag, try to get that dog back! Have to agree with Ditch your rites to the pup were lost once you handed the papers over to the first owner who then signed the dog over to the local rescue centre and are now the rightful owners You could you attempt to get someone else to rehome/adopt the dog ..Most of the animal centres also neutar or spay the dog before rehoming One footnote i was recently in the vets.with my favorite Lab ,she was getting checked over after a case of mastatis after a phantom pregnancy..the vet knows shes a working dog and wanted to weigh her .The scales where in the surgery waiting room where an rspca officer was waiting with an injured cormorant..On weighing her he commented to another waiting punter with an overweight pooch .. he said to the the woman that my dog was the perfect weight and in top condition ,when the owner of the lab enquired on her build and how I kept her so trim i told her she worked for a living.... the look on rspca inspector said it all ...Im expecting a knock on the door any time soon..There is holier than though attitude with these misguided people concerning working dogs and its a prejustice we will have to overcome if our sport is to survive I wish you good luck in getting the pup back ..but I can honestly say it wont be easy..or cheap keep your chin up :wallbash: In sport Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunner1966 0 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Wag, try to get that dog back! Have to agree with Ditch your rites to the pup were lost once you handed the papers over to the first owner who then signed the dog over to the local rescue centre and are now the rightful owners You could you attempt to get someone else to rehome/adopt the dog ..Most of the animal centres also neutar or spay the dog before rehoming One footnote i was recently in the vets.with my favorite Lab ,she was getting checked over after a case of mastatis after a phantom pregnancy..the vet knows shes a working dog and wanted to weigh her .The scales where in the surgery waiting room where an rspca officer was waiting with an injured cormorant..On weighing her he commented to another waiting punter with an overweight pooch .. he said to the the woman that my dog was the perfect weight and in top condition ,when the owner of the lab enquired on her build and how I kept her so trim i told her she worked for a living.... the look on rspca inspector said it all ...Im expecting a knock on the door any time soon..There is holier than though attitude with these misguided people concerning working dogs and its a prejustice we will have to overcome if our sport is to survive I wish you good luck in getting the pup back ..but I can honestly say it wont be easy..or cheap keep your chin up :wallbash: In sport Steve hello new to this site hope you get the dog back i think these dog homes take the mick with the prices they charge for a dog and the things you have to do to get one is a joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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