Dam Or Sire What Has More Influence On Pups ?

[Neal 1,866]

Nothing like a bit of useless science to throw a spanner in the works!

 

On a slightly more useful note...I'd always want the dam of the litter to have a lovely calm temperament as that is what the pups will spend their first few weeks with.

 

Failing that...listen to everybody else as I've had a pint with my lunch and I'm writing gobbledygook.

[bunnys 1,228]

Influence on ta welps I believe comes from both sire and dam . Some follow dam some sire and if one his lucky a blend of both will be gotten in some welps. Learned behavior of environment can and does get passed on at times but not always,atb bunnys

[Country Joe 1,411]

In Greyhound breeding you can get brood Bitches that will produce open racers in every litter to different Sires, where others will just produce graders in their litters.

Bitches can all be well bred, and have been good trackers.

[roybo 2,873]

mitochondrial DNA is passed on by the mother ,i think its whats in the egg wall

[Country Joe 1,411]

Yes but them Sires were also Top Class and well bred from Top Class trackers

 

They wernt a bottom grader from the local flap

i know this, didn't mention Flapping tracks, some broods just seem to be able to produce open racers in every litter, these bitches are worth their weight in gold.

Edited August 13, 2014 by Country Joe

[bunnys 1,228]

Just that some lines nick beta than others when outxsing most pro kennels thee all we'll bred atb bunnys

[jack68 628]

Was talking to the greyhound man who I get my food from about what % the pups would be from sire or dam, he said in greyhounds it's a 70% dame 30% sire. But with lurcher were there is more then two breeds then crossing with a lurcher with two breeds ..eg collie grey x deerhound x grey then % go out the window and luck comes into it on weather you get good pups or not...

[morton 5,368]

Is it not the case that the female chromosone plays a more significant influence on breeding than the male?.Whether thats the scientific case or not ive found that the traits from the dam are paramount in any breeding.The reality is any offspring will only ever be as good as the Dam and Sire,take a shortcut with either and its wasted breeding.

[trigger2 3,145]

i think the pups tend to follow the damn and she is the more important out of the 2 in a mating.

 

look at mules and hinnies for instance. a mule is a donkey over a horse and a hinny is a horse over a donkey. there tends to be a difference in size and looks between the 2 and i believe it has been proven that the genetic inheritance of the hinny is exactly the same as the mule.

[Country Joe 1,411]

On Greyhound breeding, years ago i chatted to a top trainer on breeding, and he told me he had a brood that always came up with a couple of good dogs on every litter, although this would never happen, he said if she went to a grader, she would still come up with the goods, as all Track Greyhounds are usually well bred.

When a great track dog goes to stud he needs the top broods to go to him, as to be a successful stud you need to have produce winning top races, preferable classic winners, then you will have more bitches being served.

Interesting the amount of pups these super sires have produced the great double Derby winner Westmead Hawk

recently deceased, had 4,879 offspring, with this amount its obvious some of his offspring would win top races.

[bunnys 1,228]

Have to agree with max some studs can cova a donkey ,and throw a good un or two .producers there be top stallions top stud greys it be the same in most if not all animals bred for performance,finding the producers his part of the breeding tequniques that get us good animals time and again ,matching them to broods with comon ancestory the light of it's this top studs are there for the very purpose that they can and do produce quality offspring with mediocre broods it's matching the lines where abit a nouse come. Atb bunnys

[Neal 1,866]

As bunnys says, it's the common ancestry ie quality line breeding which makes an individual more likely to be prepotent and therefore more likely to pass on its qualities. The problem is that so many of us were raised on a diet of "outcrossing is the only way to produce quality pups" thanks to some individuals encouraging this as the only way to produce lurchers that many are scared of mating relatives for fear of the evil of inbreeding. Shock horror.

[THELURCHERANDLONGDOG 91]

As said on paper it is 50/50 but in reality 60/40 to the bitch side.

[whitefeet4190 1,725]

Is it not the case that the female chromosone plays a more significant influence on breeding than the male?.Whether thats the scientific case or not ive found that the traits from the dam are paramount in any breeding.The reality is any offspring will only ever be as good as the Dam and Sire,take a shortcut with either and its wasted breeding.

I'd disagree with that mate only because I know of a trotting horse that wasn't worth a wank but his offspring were unbeatable, weather that applies with dogs aswell I don't know ?

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Sensible words Max

Edited August 15, 2014 by Phil Lloyd