whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Just wondering what has more of an influence on the pups out come ie height, build all the rest of it weather it would be the dog or the bitch ? I am thinking in terms of a 1st x bull greyhound If the sire was the greyhound would the pups come out taller ?? If anyone has bred this way round I would like to see pics of the outcome Thanks in advance Quote Link to post
bird 9,878 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Just wondering what has more of an influence on the pups out come ie height, build all the rest of it weather it would be the dog or the bitch ? I am thinking in terms of a 1st x bull greyhound If the sire was the greyhound would the pups come out taller ?? If anyone has bred this way round I would like to see pics of the outcome Thanks in advance well on paper the pups will get 4/8 genes from each parent . But I think having the dam none running dog, seems throw more to the pups . my young dog dam a gsd bitch , and all pups carry strong feature to a gsd, but temps are in some pups gone to the greyhound I think. my dog loves people+dogs , shows none of the gsd temp regards guarding or dog aggressive as gsd's can be with other dogs sometimes and deff guard, he soft lol but very full on in the field prob like what greyhound would be . and some gsdx grey bred from a running dog dam seem to come out more racy from what ive seen pics of in the past.But as said on paper it should make no differnce really Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Ok cheers bird Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,080 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) My dog at 21tts went over a bitch at 24tts the dogs turned out about 23tts and bitches about 21tts Edited August 13, 2014 by nothernlite Quote Link to post
Black123 120 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 What about gran sire + gran dam so on it can play its part like humans parents can be small but some children turn out 6 ft odd funny old game atvb 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,878 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 What about gran sire + gran dam so on it can play its part like humans parents can be small but some children turn out 6 ft odd funny old game atvb yeh fair point , mom+ dad were average size dad 5ft 9 1/2 in mom 5ft 5in , me and my 1 brother knocking 6ft and other brother 6ft 2in , sisters same size as what mom was.But her dad was 6ft 2 in so it looks like the 3rd gen as come through with me+brothers, but my son smaller than me at 5ft 10in , feck knows how it works Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Lol was he the runt ? Quote Link to post
bird 9,878 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Lol was he the runt ? must have been , and he feckin nuts as well , not like me Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Lol so he should be well bred then bird ? I'd say it's all about the sire lol hopefully make a good all rounder at that height then Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,169 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Genes are not an exact science, especially with two different breeds. That's why line breeding and breeding with similar stamp dogs is important to get a truer type. 1 Quote Link to post
Neal 1,866 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 As Bird has said above...the pups will be 50/50 in terms of the genes they can inherit from either parent but there are certain aspects which can only come from either the male or the female line. For example, mitochondrial DNA will only be passed on by the dam (the mitochondrial DNA in the male sperm is, I think, contained within the tail and is solely used to give it the energy to reach the egg at which point it is no longer needed). However, I think I read somewhere that mitochondrial DNA doesn't effect either inherited behaviour or the outside/physical nature of the pups...don't quote me on that as I may be misremembering. In humans I believe that some features are only passed on by the male...though for the life of me I can't remember which ones. 1 Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Lol it's hard to tell someone they are wrong Neal when I don't know what their on about lol So would u say I'd be better going for a 2nd generation bull x to get the height ? Atb Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Equal mixture. But the Mentality can be swayed by the dam. Remember the pups spend the first six weeks with the dam and get a helluva lot of traits from her. ie if the bitch is really aggressive there's a good chance a larger percentage of the pups could turn out the same way. 2 Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,169 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Nice one Neal, very useful, maybe. I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Lol it's hard to tell someone they are wrong Neal when I don't know what their on about lol So would u say I'd be better going for a 2nd generation bull x to get the height ? Atb Second gen x are usually taller and rangier. Quote Link to post
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