paulus 26 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 simple fact is there are millions of stars millions of light light years further away than the 6000 light year limit that that would prove creationism, i have looked at the reasons followers of creationist give for this anomaly and they range from miscalculation although i struggle to see how anyone can miscalculate an error that large from a really small number like 6000, to the likes of the scientist on that vid on the other page who makes valid points about possible distortions in time but conveniently only talks of time speeding up light to make the distance smaller not the possibility of time also being just as likely to be slowed down to make the distance further, the best one is God made these distant stars to give us something nice to look at. Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 could you explain how that works paulas,so the distance from earth to furtherest planet means earth nillions yrs old Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 could you explain how that works paulas,so the distance from earth to furtherest planet means earth nillions yrs old the sun is approximately 150 million km or 93 million miles away, a distance that is known as the “astronomical unit” (AU). Neptune, the most distant planet, is 30 AU from the sun, or some 44.8 billion km (27.9 billion mi). The Voyager 2 spacecraft, launched in 1977, reached Jupiter just two years later, but did not reach Neptune until 1989. The nearest stars, Alpha Centauri A-B and Proxima Centauri, are roughly 1000 times more distant, roughly 4.3 light-years away (one light-year is the distance that light travels in a Julian year of 365.25 days, namely 9.461 trillion km or 5.879 trillion mi). The Milky Way galaxy consists of some 300 billion stars in a spiral-shaped conglomerate roughly 100,000 light-years across. The Andromeda Galaxy, which can be seen with many home telescopes, is 2.54 million light-years away. There are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the observable universe. As of the present date, the most distant observed galaxy is some 13.2 billion light-years away, so it was formed not long after the big bang, 13.75 billion years ago (plus or minus 0.011 billion) Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 you havent explained how that makes earth billions of yrs old an your telling one light year equals nearly six trillion of our miles is that correct Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 you havent explained how that makes earth billions of yrs old an your telling one light year equals nearly six trillion of our miles is that correct . Over a year, light travels 5.87849981 x 1012 miles (roughly 9.4605284 x 1012 kilometers.) Written out, that’s 5,878,499,810,000 miles or 9,460,528,400,000 kilometers. Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 for the earth to be 6000 years old or less then then the calculations of distance to the stars would have to have an error of over 99.99999999999999999999999999999999% or something if this was correct even relatively short distances like probes being sent to intercept comets would be impossible but the fact we have done it says the calculation is quite accurate, Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 ok for your theory to be correct you have to assume the big bang actually took place, an thats not going to happen,because we wernt there never seen it,you have to BELEIVE have FAITH to assume it happened.thats not science thats religon! thats problem one paulas oh an by the way not one evo scientist can explain where the matter came for this exploison or when it came into existence ok so you say after the assumed big bang,that all the debris flew out into the space an assuming.that it took billions of years to get as far away as it is now,,, is that was your saying paulas so tell me this, this big bang,which we never observed,just a theory ,not science. how do you know the that the bang wasnt powerful enough to fling the debris to roughly were it is now in a short fast actio,that big an powerful bang must have been mind boggling big if it created the heavens so did you ever see a bomb exlposion,debris flys of at a very fast speed,so multiply that with the buggest bang ever an no gravity in space,you not think they would have moved to roughlywere there at now at very fast speed eh Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 to many holes paulas if i wasnt heading out with kids an dogs i could write loads of problems god created the earth first,then stretched out the heavens simple thats what bible says an you say you can measure in light yrs one equals 6 trillion of our miles haha so do the math in this q,theres a planet hundred light yrs away,whats that in our miles cant wait for this Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 ok for your theory to be correct you have to assume the big bang actually took place, an thats not going to happen,because we wernt there never seen it so tell me this, this big bang,which we never observed,just a theory Exactly the same reasoning can be used when discussing creationism. We weren't there for either, its ok to debunk the big bang for that reason but not creation......go figure !! Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Shouldnt all you 'God' people be in church or something on a sunday morning?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 ok for your theory to be correct you have to assume the big bang actually took place, an thats not going to happen,because we wernt there never seen it so tell me this, this big bang,which we never observed,just a theory Exactly the same reasoning can be used when discussing creationism. We weren't there for either, its ok to debunk the big bang for that reason but not creation......go figure !! excatly johnny thats my whole point you need faith to beleive in big bang an god,creation an evoloution are both religons so why are they trying to take creation out an put evoloution in as science,when its not its a religon,thats my whole point mate but.t 1 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 like your name lad brindle all the way.lol i would be in church.if i could find one that follows strictly bible, none in my area do this,catholic an protestant pick an choose bible when it suits them for their agenda,thats not christianity 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Shouldnt all you 'God' people be in church or something on a sunday morning?? keyboard christians... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 ok for your theory to be correct you have to assume the big bang actually took place, an thats not going to happen,because we wernt there never seen it,you have to BELEIVE have FAITH to assume it happened.thats not science thats religon! thats problem one paulas oh an by the way not one evo scientist can explain where the matter came for this exploison or when it came into existence ok so you say after the assumed big bang,that all the debris flew out into the space an assuming.that it took billions of years to get as far away as it is now,,, is that was your saying paulas so tell me this, this big bang,which we never observed,just a theory ,not science. how do you know the that the bang wasnt powerful enough to fling the debris to roughly were it is now in a short fast actio,that big an powerful bang must have been mind boggling big if it created the heavens so did you ever see a bomb exlposion,debris flys of at a very fast speed,so multiply that with the buggest bang ever an no gravity in space,you not think they would have moved to roughlywere there at now at very fast speed eh i am telling you that by using the speed of light to measure distance light takes to reach the earth then there are billions of stars older than 6000 years given that fact the universe is older than your creation theory, it is nothing to do with how fast the objects got to where they are but the amount of time light takes to get back to the earth from them. Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 no paulas your seriously assuming it you cant answer my q lol aka i have my own church,my house lol i dont need somebody to interpute it for me i do it fine myself Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts