paulus 26 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 so in a nutshell if the earth was only created 6000 years ago we should not be able to see any star further than 6 light years away but we can see hundreds of thousands that are a million times further away??? Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Have a look at this vid paulus - Jason Lisle, PhD astrophysics, he's infinitely more qualified to answer than I am. Sorry can't post my own information, busy this morning. Have a good day gents Link to post Share on other sites
Deputy Dog 28 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Been watching this topic on and off since start. Would have described myself as atheist before, with no inclination for established religion. Feel completely unsure now. These creationist lads have a sound argument. Posted fooking lot of thought provoking information. I always thought evolution was science, clearly not. Didn't realise there was single scientist believed in the bible, yet there's thousands. The objections are clearly from heart not head as the marshall states. You lads that believe in evolution put nout up whatsoever to prove what you believe. You've taken right kicking on this topic, especially since the marshall got involved, you avoided him like plague. You take piss out of frazy because he's not so polished but you offer little back to what he's posting. The academics sound convincing with explaining the theory, but that's probably because of language they use, the common man offers a poor argument. Paulus I remember reading science mag that suggested light could moved faster in space. Whats the score age of earth lads. How old do you think it is fm, fd?? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Have a look at this vid paulus - Jason Lisle, PhD astrophysics, he's infinitely more qualified to answer than I am. Sorry can't post my own information, busy this morning. Have a good day gents nothing more than "possibilities" to try to get the facts to fit in with the creationist theory there mate, if light can travel at different speeds due to time then the law of averages says some will be slower and some faster so with that half the stars would "possibly" be further away as opposed to all being nearer as is suggested, Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 paulas mate light is a measurement of speed an distance not time mate lol,your trying mate but as the bigman said above none of yous has out up any evidence at all. 6000 years an ive plenty to back it up Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 well said deputy dog Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,883 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 paulas mate light is a measurement of speed an distance not time mate lol,your trying mate but as the bigman said above none of yous has out up any evidence at all. 6000 years an ive plenty to back it up Firstly tard lightspeed just like any speed is worked out using distance and time ffs and secondly if god made us all the same then we are feckin animals by your own mouth lmfao roll on tommorrow morning when the nutters return to the pews hahahahaha Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,063 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Animals do have the fight or flight mentality, but they also know when the 'time has come' through illness or disease. TC Do they ?.....how do you know ?.......That sounds dangerously close to the belief that animals have suicidal thoughts. As for your job as a homosapien is done and you are now surplus to requirements,my word .....if ever something could be said to push a man closer to God thats got to be it. Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,063 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Been watching this topic on and off since start. Would have described myself as atheist before, with no inclination for established religion. Feel completely unsure now. These creationist lads have a sound argument. Posted fooking lot of thought provoking information. I always thought evolution was science, clearly not. Didn't realise there was single scientist believed in the bible, yet there's thousands. The objections are clearly from heart not head as the marshall states. You lads that believe in evolution put nout up whatsoever to prove what you believe. You've taken right kicking on this topic, especially since the marshall got involved, you avoided him like plague. You take piss out of frazy because he's not so polished but you offer little back to what he's posting. The academics sound convincing with explaining the theory, but that's probably because of language they use, the common man offers a poor argument. Paulus I remember reading science mag that suggested light could moved faster in space. Whats the score age of earth lads. How old do you think it is fm, fd?? Thats got to be the most refreshing post to read in near 100 pages......someone actually willing to say " im not quite sure about this "..........good for you chief. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Been watching this topic on and off since start. Would have described myself as atheist before, with no inclination for established religion. Feel completely unsure now. These creationist lads have a sound argument. Posted fooking lot of thought provoking information. I always thought evolution was science, clearly not. Didn't realise there was single scientist believed in the bible, yet there's thousands. The objections are clearly from heart not head as the marshall states. You lads that believe in evolution put nout up whatsoever to prove what you believe. You've taken right kicking on this topic, especially since the marshall got involved, you avoided him like plague. You take piss out of frazy because he's not so polished but you offer little back to what he's posting. The academics sound convincing with explaining the theory, but that's probably because of language they use, the common man offers a poor argument. Paulus I remember reading science mag that suggested light could moved faster in space. Whats the score age of earth lads. How old do you think it is fm, fd?? Im not a believer, probably never will be......but that's a good post, even though I have no belief, I've got absolutely no desire to try prove someone else's is wrong........I like the uncertainties of life..... Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I've read most of these posts with interest, I have commented on several previous threads of a similar topic and I've made my views on faith known. One fundamental question I've never had answered by evolutionists is one that stares us in the face every day. If humans are merely an evolution from a single cell organisms which over the millions of years has developed then why are no other animals anywhere near our evolutionary position? Think about it not even a 10th of our capability. Yes we all watch David Attenboroughs program's and ooh and arr at the amazing animal kingdom bird navigating by stars, ant army's lifting loads 100 times more than their strength, but seriously consider it, name one animal that can communicate through a language? Not a grunt or a bark or song but one that can have a true conversation? Name an animal that has an awareness of time and space, one that analyses and studies it's history? One that produces art for pure enjoyment of, dare I say it the soul? These are just basics let alone the technology advances we have made transportation, medicine, flight, space travel, communications etc etc. can you honestly say we are descendants from apes? Why are apes still living in trees surely they should have "evolved" over the millions of years to at least be living in buildings they have constructed? I love science at fascinates me, but I do also think it's can be very arrogant and narrow minded "we can't prove god exists through a formula so therefore god doesn't exist" Anyway that's me done just my two penneth. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I've read most of these posts with interest, I have commented on several previous threads of a similar topic and I've made my views on faith known. One fundamental question I've never had answered by evolutionists is one that stares us in the face every day. If humans are merely an evolution from a single cell organisms which over the millions of years has developed then why are no other animals anywhere near our evolutionary position? Think about it not even a 10th of our capability. Yes we all watch David Attenboroughs program's and ooh and arr at the amazing animal kingdom bird navigating by stars, ant army's lifting loads 100 times more than their strength, but seriously consider it, name one animal that can communicate through a language? Not a grunt or a bark or song but one that can have a true conversation? Name an animal that has an awareness of time and space, one that analyses and studies it's history? One that produces art for pure enjoyment of, dare I say it the soul? These are just basics let alone the technology advances we have made transportation, medicine, flight, space travel, communications etc etc. can you honestly say we are descendants from apes? Why are apes still living in trees surely they should have "evolved" over the millions of years to at least be living in buildings they have constructed? I love science at fascinates me, but I do also think it's can be very arrogant and narrow minded "we can't prove god exists through a formula so therefore god doesn't exist" Anyway that's me done just my two penneth. Animals keep doing the same trick seeker, breeding with animals that do the same trick. Humans discover, they want up to the moon and to see whats at the end of the flat world. You rarely get humans who are bred from non moving/discovering humans...that split an atom..i'm too busy for lots of words but i'm sure if you've a mind you can extrapolate on that. Dont worry about apes living in trees (ish), worry about who chopped thier tails off and why they stand up more than monkeys. That stunt JC pulled with the platypuss was a gud en. Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 paulas mate light is a measurement of speed an distance not time mate lol,your trying mate but as the bigman said above none of yous has out up any evidence at all. 6000 years an ive plenty to back it up the speed of light is 299,792,458 metres per second so time is the constant. With technology limiting the velocities of astronauts, these differences are minuscule: after 6 months on the International Space Station (ISS), the astronaut crew has indeed aged less than those on Earth, but only by about 0.007 seconds (nowhere near the 1 year disparity from the theoretical example). The effects would be greater if the astronauts were traveling nearer to the speed of light (approximately 300,000 km/s), instead of their actual speed – which is the speed of the orbiting ISS, about 7.7 km/s.[3] Time dilation is caused by differences in either gravity or relative velocity. Both factors are at play in the case of ISS astronauts (and are actually opposing one another). Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,095 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 ok paulas if we were hairy apes years ago/which there no evidence at all/ haha evoloution is about getting better [bANNED TEXT] well losing hair to get colder an losing a tail is nt evo.do you know how handy a tail would be think about it your LOSING not gaineing at several points during our development in the womb we indeed do have tails All mammals have a tail at one point in their development; in humans, it is present for a period of 4 weeks, during stages 14 to 22 of human embryogenesis. This tail is most prominent in human embryos 3135 days old Wtf he has a cook on his back lol Link to post Share on other sites
Flipper_Al 1,012 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot Link to post Share on other sites
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