frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 more quotes "The intelligent layman has long suspected circular reasoning in the use of rocks to date fossils and fossils to date rocks. The geologist has never bothered to think of a good reply."(J.O'Rourke in the American Journal of Science) "In most people's minds, fossils and Evolution go hand in hand. In reality, fossils are a great embarrassment to Evolutionary theory and offer strong support for the concept of Creation. If Evolution were true, we should find literally millions of fossils that show how one kind of life slowly and gradually changed to another kind of life. But missing links are the trade secret, in a sense, of paleontology. The point is, the links are still missing. What we really find are gaps that sharpen up the boundaries between kinds. It's those gaps which provide us with the evidence of Creation of separate kinds. As a matter of fact, there are gaps between each of the major kinds of plants and animals. Transition forms are missing by the millions. What we do find are separate and complex kinds, pointing to Creation." (Dr Gary Parker Biologist/paleontologist and former ardent Evolutionist.) "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them." (David Kitts, palaeontologist and Evolutionist) "... I still think that, to the unprejudiced, the fossil record of plants is in favour of special creation. Can you imagine how an orchid, a duckweed and a palm tree have come from the same ancestry, and have we any evidence for this assumption? The evolutionist must be prepared with an answer, but I think that most would break down before an inquisition." (Dr Eldred Corner, Professor of Botany at Cambridge University, England: Evolution in Contemporary Botanical Thought (Chicago: Quadrangle Books, 1961, p.97)) Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 How do they make you hate god? Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 trying to stop me studying my bible change my philosophy loads of people turned against me because i beleive in jesus an gods creation it didnt work doesnt matter howd bad i get treated because jesus died brutally for my sins so if i might follow him ill have salvation jesus said in bible if you follow me you will be hated.persecuted an put to death so i knew what backlash i would get Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 more quotes "Fossils are a great embarrassment to Evolutionary theory and offer strong support for the concept of Creation." (*Gary Parker*, Ph.D., biologist / paleontologist and former evolutionist) "So firmly does the modern geologist believe in evolution up from simple organisms to complex ones over huge time spans, that he is perfectly willing to use the theory of evolution to prove the theory of evolution [p.128] ... one is applying the theory of evolution to prove the correctness of evolution. For we are assuming that the oldest formations contain only the most primitive and least complex organisms, which is the base assumption of Darwinism ... [p.127] If we now assume that only simple organisms will occur in old formations, we are assuming the basic premise of Darwinism to be correct. To use, therefore, for dating purposes, the assumption that only simple organisms will be present in old formations is to thoroughly beg the whole question. It is arguing in a circle. [p.128]"(*Arthur E Wilder-Smith*, Man's Origin, Man's destiny: Harold Shaw Publishers, 1968, pp127- "It cannot be denied that from a strictly philosophical standpoint, geologists are here arguing in a circle. The succession of organisms has been determined by the study of their remains imbedded in the rocks, and the relative ages of the rocks are determined by the remains of the organisms they contain." (R H Rastall, Lecturer in Economic Geology, Cambridge University: Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol.10 (Chicago: William Benton, Publisher, 1956, p.168) "I admit that an awful lot of that [fantasy] has gotten into the textbooks as though it were true. For instance, the most famous example still on exhibit downstairs [in the American Museum of Natural History] is the exhibit on horse evolution prepared fifty years ago. That has been presented as literal truth in textbook after textbook. Now, I think that that is lamentable, particularly because the people who propose these kinds of stories themselves may be aware of the speculative nature of some of the stuff. But by the time it filters down to the textbooks, we've got science as truth and we have a problem." (Dr Niles Eldredge, Paleontologist and Evolutionist) "The set of genetic instructions for humans is roughly three billion letters long." (Miroslav Radman & Robert Wagner, The High Fidelity of DNA Duplication, Scientific America, Vol. 259, No.2 August 1988, pp40-46) "DNA and the molecules that surround it form a truly superb mechanism - a miniaturized marvel. The information is so compactly stored that the amount of DNA necessary to code all the people living on our planet might fit into a space no larger than an aspirin tablet." (Paul S Taylor in The Illustrated Origins Answer Book page 23) "... Life cannot have had a random beginning ... The trouble is that there are about two thousand enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in 10 to the power of 40,000, an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup. If one is not prejudiced either by social beliefs or by a scientific training into the conviction that life originated on the Earth, this simple calculation wipes the idea entirely out of court ..." (Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe, Evolution from Space) "The chance that useful DNA molecules would develop without a Designer are apparently zero. Then let me conclude by asking which came first - the DNA (which is essential for the synthesis of proteins) or the protein enzyme (DNA-polymerase) without which DNA synthesis is nil? ... there is virtually no chance that chemical 'letters' would spontaneously produce coherent DNA and protein 'words.'" (George Howe, expert in biology sciences) Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I've often wondered why folk have never seen a ghost (friendly or moody) whilst eating a cornet on Miami Beach..perhaps there's a simple answer. Erm perhaps ghosts don't like sand ......... Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 i advise people to read above an more quotes to follow from top scientists Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 you reading paulas or you gonna ignore the truth Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,875 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I've often wondered why folk have never seen a ghost (friendly or moody) whilst eating a cornet on Miami Beach..perhaps there's a simple answer. Have you asked everyone who has every par taken of a 99 with strawberry sauce on Miami beech then ?..........or was that just some random bollocks ? Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I've often wondered why folk have never seen a ghost (friendly or moody) whilst eating a cornet on Miami Beach..perhaps there's a simple answer. Erm perhaps ghosts don't like sand ......... They dont do a bundle on feelgood daylight either...Watching an horror film on the beach would'nt really work would it. Indoors and full of subliminal guilt and hey presto..Ghosty on the firm. Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 johnny neither can.be.proved wrong but they can be disproven an evoloution can be disproven an it has paulas so your saying our tail bone is vestigual ok i will pay to have yours removed how does that sound im not slagging anyone im telling truth Look at the debate above thats your best scientists being proven wrong so why they not bring up what you say johnny or paulas they did an he proved it wrong he has.lots more debates with yor scientists an beat them all why dont you watch some.hes not smarter hes just right oh by the way did einstein have a degree no an countless other well renowned scientists havent Vestigial does not mean "functionless." Even if the tail bone does have a function, that doesn't refute it's status as a vestigial trait nor does it refute the evidence for common descent that the tail bone provides. The tail bone of humans is regarded as being vestigial because it, along with the tail bones of all other apes, directly corresponds to the tails of monkeys, which use their tails as organs of balance. Given as how both humans, and all other apes no longer need tails to maintain their balance, scientists are totally justified in saying that the tail bone is vestigial. Being the attachment site of muscles is not strong evidence of usefulness. If the tailbone is retained, then it make sense that structures associated with it might be retained as well: evolution has no intelligent "garbage collection" routine that knows to clean out certain structures as they become obsolete or unnecessary. The development of both bones and muscles are closely linked together: if a vestigial structure is made of bone then having muscles attached to it is only natural. Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 paulas watch hovind seminars i told you already your theory dead in water or do you no better than the above scientist now come on paulas your being willfully ignorant il pay for yours to be removed then an vestigual means of no use read a dictonary man more quotes from scientists to come including evoloution scientist Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 more quotes from scientists "It cannot be denied that from a strictly philosophical standpoint, geologists are here arguing in a circle. The succession of organisms has been determined by the study of their remains imbedded in the rocks, and the relative ages of the rocks are determined by the remains of the organisms they contain." (R H Rastall, Lecturer in Economic Geology, Cambridge University: Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol.10 (Chicago: William Benton, Publisher, 1956, p.168) "I admit that an awful lot of that [fantasy] has gotten into the textbooks as though it were true. For instance, the most famous example still on exhibit downstairs [in the American Museum of Natural History] is the exhibit on horse evolution prepared fifty years ago. That has been presented as literal truth in textbook after textbook. Now, I think that that is lamentable, particularly because the people who propose these kinds of stories themselves may be aware of the speculative nature of some of the stuff. But by the time it filters down to the textbooks, we've got science as truth and we have a problem." (Dr Niles Eldredge, Paleontologist and Evolutionist) "The set of genetic instructions for humans is roughly three billion letters long." (Miroslav Radman & Robert Wagner, The High Fidelity of DNA Duplication, Scientific America, Vol. 259, No.2 August 1988, pp40-46) "DNA and the molecules that surround it form a truly superb mechanism - a miniaturized marvel. The information is so compactly stored that the amount of DNA necessary to code all the people living on our planet might fit into a space no larger than an aspirin tablet." (Paul S Taylor in The Illustrated Origins Answer Book page 23) "... Life cannot have had a random beginning ... The trouble is that there are about two thousand enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in 10 to the power of 40,000, an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup. If one is not prejudiced either by social beliefs or by a scientific training into the conviction that life originated on the Earth, this simple calculation wipes the idea entirely out of court ..." (Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe, Evolution from Space) "The chance that useful DNA molecules would develop without a Designer are apparently zero. Then let me conclude by asking which came first - the DNA (which is essential for the synthesis of proteins) or the protein enzyme (DNA-polymerase) without which DNA synthesis is nil? ... there is virtually no chance that chemical 'letters' would spontaneously produce coherent DNA and protein 'words.'" (George Howe, expert in biology sciences) "...An intelligible communication via radio signal from some distant galaxy would be widely hailed as evidence of an intelligent source. Why then doesn't the message sequence on the DNA molecule also constitute prima facie evidence for an intelligent source? After all, DNA information is not just analogous to a message sequence such as Morse code, it is such a message sequence." (Charles B Thaxton, Walter L Bradley and Robert L Olsen: The Mystery of Life's Origin, Reassessing Current Theories (New York Philosophical Library 1984) pp 211-212) "Generation after generation, through countless cell divisions, the genetic heritage of living things is scrupulously preserved in DNA ... All of life depends on the accurate transmission of information. As genetic messages are passed through generations of dividing cells, even small mistakes can be life-threatening ... if mistakes were as rare as one in a million, 3000 mistakes would be made during each duplication of the human genome. Since the genome replicates about a million billion times in the course of building a human being from a single fertilized egg, it is unlikely that the human organism could tolerate such a high rate of error. In fact, the actual rate of mistakes is more like one in 10 billion." (Miroslav Radman and Robert Wagner, The High Fidelity of DNA Duplication... Scientific America. Vol. 299, No 2 (August 1988, pp 40-44. Quote is from page 24)) "In the meantime, the educated public continues to believe that Darwin has provided all the relevant answers by the magic formula of random mutations plus natural selection - quite unaware of the fact that random mutations turned out to be irrelevant and natural selection a tautology." (Arthur Koestler, author) "Evolution lacks a scientifically acceptable explanation of the source of the precisely planned codes within cells without which there can be no specific proteins and hence, no life."(David A Kaufman, Ph.D., University of Florida, Gainsesville) "Once we see, however, that the probability of life originating at random is so utterly minuscule as to make it absurd, it becomes sensible to think that the favourable properties of physics on which life depends are in every respect deliberate....It is therefore almost inevitable that our own measure of intelligence must reflect ...higher intelligences...even to the limit of God...such a theory is so obvious that one wonders why it is not widely accepted as being self-evident. The reasons are psychological rather than scientific." (Sir Fred Hoyle, well-known British mathematician, astronomer and cosmologist) Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 trying to stop me studying my bible change my philosophy loads of people turned against me because i beleive in jesus an gods creation it didnt work doesnt matter howd bad i get treated because jesus died brutally for my sins so if i might follow him ill have salvation jesus said in bible if you follow me you will be hated.persecuted an put to death so i knew what backlash i would get physically stop you or discourage you? How do you know they're demons? Did they admit it? Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 aye physically an mentally bible tells me it was demons jesus cured demon infested people all the time all this new age channelling physics etc you shoul not do it god says it opens you up to the demonic Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 So what's the script then fraz? God created everything from just saying something no doubts about it? All just because some other theory was wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
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