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[General lee 979]

Ignoring the truth and being convinced your right no matter what evidence to the contrary sounds like every Englishman I've ever met haha

[Tiercel 6,986]

Ignoring the truth and being convinced your right no matter what evidence to the contrary sounds like every Englishman I've ever met haha

Thank god I'm Welsh then! Pun intended.

 

TC

[BigBrianBorou 35]

completley wrong tiercel,when did I put down anyones religon,quote me,mate this was a debate a debate were creation vs eviloution,now hold on im simply defined what science meant,agree,an then I defined what evoloution meant agree,so dont be coming on thread thinking you know it all just because your a mod,now the two were defined an know one has any answers,you no why cause there realizing that im being truthful,now im getting a bashing from a few but thats expected when were talking about peoples beleifs,my whole point is that its a dangerous religon an my kuds an your kids are being taught this,does this not make you uneasy,well I must be the only one,mate their teaching the kids that your nothing important in fact that the weak must die in order for the h,race to get bertter,an that your related to a rock,cmon man its teaches the kids their worthless,just an animal,since the bible was took out of school an replaced with evoloution in 1963 every last statistic in murder,drug use,abortion,rape,robbery etc has sky rocketed(america) now do you think theirs a connection,i do theres no morals no absolutes in evo your just an animal or a bit of proti plasm that washed up on beach,look at the main evos in past time hitler muusilini stalin,all well know evoloutionsts,they slaughtered millions why,cause they werent important just animals they thought,an its slowly creeping in here,im doing this cause I love my kids an everyone else,,dont say I didnt warn you

[paulus 26]

he is not a mod and i would hazard a guess millions up millions have been killed in the name of religion over the centuries, and as for blaming evolution theories for the rise in crime rates, well need i say anything.

[Tiercel 6,986]

I am just a simple Welshman, and life is so simple to me. Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself, take what you need and no more, and always give back for what you have taken. I am probably closer to Charlie Caller in what I believe to be the right and proper way to live, but I do not need any so called higher deity to tell me what's right and what's wrong, in their brief life my parents taught me that over 50 years ago.

 

As I stated in an earlier post I live my life and taught my children what was right from the beginning. They all live a good life, yet according to you unless we embrace god we are doomed to eternal damnation. One word, Bollox!! If your God can do that to people who live a good life, just because they do not go to church every Sunday, I am sure that he is not the type of God that I would want to worship.

 

As a postscript, anyone reading this thread would defiantly not take up Christianity on your picture of how it should be.

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PPS; please write in sentences and paragraphs as it make it easier to read, rather than one long garbled sentence with indiscriminate commas.

 

TC

[paulus 26]

and this topic was not started as a creation v evolution topic, it was actually about Frank becoming a woman

[Hareydave 1,214]

and this topic was not started as a creation v evolution topic, it was actually about Frank becoming a woman

frank evolved or was he created

[paulus 26]

 

and this topic was not started as a creation v evolution topic, it was actually about Frank becoming a woman

frank evolved or was he created

 

his cockoffame was deffo created

[Hareydave 1,214]

 

 

and this topic was not started as a creation v evolution topic, it was actually about Frank becoming a woman

frank evolved or was he created

 

his cockoffame was deffo created

 

god help him

[Rake aboot 4,935]

Tiercel

 

I agree completely and have discussed this at length with devout christians who basically agreee. Live your life with values that you would expect others to have.

 

Charlie is a Pagan, (part hippy I`m sure ! lol) And Paganism intigues me as it holds a lot of beliefs which I find appealing, albeit without the gods, hence that attraction of Buddhism.

 

Anyway, I`m not meant to be on this thread,

 

Laters dudes,, and dudettes of course.

[Blackbriar 8,569]

You lot can speak for yourselves - Brian has convinced me.

 

I've decided to become a born - again Christian....................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

................ then i can have the pleasure of turning my back on it twice !

[lurcherman 887 13,140]

Blessis

[BigBrianBorou 35]

sorry for the typing im on a phone,well thats fair enough lads I planted a few seeds,in peoples heads,if people dont want or need a god,thats up to them but just let me tell you,from my 5 or 6 yrs of researchi found out,,there is a heaven,an a hell,dont say I didnt warn yous,,peace out my brothers

[Ggib 370]

and this topic was not started as a creation v evolution topic, it was actually about Frank becoming a woman

this topic was started because harydave thought he had a religious nut, being me, rise to a public flogging by thl massive, he was barking up the wrong tree, then from the ashes he rose like a phoenix well done bigbrianborou.

[gnasher16 30,121]

 

 

Gnasher, I really don't get where you are going with this, it's like you think there needs to be a winner. There can never be a winner, science and faith are polar opposites. Science evidence based belief, faith by definition is belief in the absence of evidence. If God showed himself to us it would'nt require any faith to believe in him would it? You want to have an argument of logic on a topic that is illogical....

 

There's never going to be this "haha we win" moment in this argument. It's completely pointless. I only entered this thread in anger, so to speak, to talk about science. I'm not out to disprove god, it's impossible. God doesn't ever enter my thoughts because there is nothing at all other than peoples 'faith' as evidence of existence and as we have discussed faith is belief in the absence of evidence. I can't really make my logic for my beliefs any simpler, if I don't know how something works I son't just invent a supernatural cause, I work through steps of logic untill I have achieved a scientific answer based on observations and mathematics. If that takes time, then so be it........ That's the persuit of truth.

 

Its absolutely nothing to do with " winning "..........your entry into this thread was anger....me too.............i dont see reason for folk to ridicule/belittle another man because he has a different version of truth to them........truth that cannot be proven either way....................if it was clear black and white yes i get that.....but when they have the attitude of.... " you retarded c**t you dont believe the truth i cant prove ".........that irritates me,the whole contradiction thing.

 

Its no different to any other subject that cant be totally proven with facts in that people will believe whatever they want to believe,i just dont like the belittling high and mighty attitude that what is essentially a small minority of the world takes .

 

 

When I said in anger, I didn't mean emotionally I meant to take it seriously, you know as in the figure of speak "entered it in anger".

 

Where have I called anyone a retard? I've been called an idiot a number of times however!

 

As for the version of truth, what I am saying is completely backed by evidence! All the science BBB has come out with is completely flawed due to his missunderstanding of it. The 2nd law of Thermodynamics was described as "basically everything falling apart", the big bang was apparently when everything came from nothing, expansion is apparently all the planets moving away from each other which would f**k up our tides so must be impossible, Edwin Hubbles observations which proved expansion were apparently already witnessed in the bible. This is all bollocks Gnasher! All of it and you expect me to say "oh alright mate if that's how you see it what I study is complete bollock you're right"

 

 

Bornhunter i didnt say you had called folk names,but a lot of people have......on the other side of the coin folk have called people liars/cheats etc and thats not on either i think the chap Brian has been true to himself and i admire that,but he has made a complete fool of himself in the way he puts himself across......similarly people saying they want him banned and belittling him have made fools of themself also.

 

As for evidence i fail to see how if 5 pieces of evidence are needed to completely prove truth..... but theres only 4........ how that completely proves truth !.....Has the Creation Research Society not previously officially stated that the Bible is not only compatible with real science but confirmed not a single word in the bible has ever been disproved by real science ?........In proving truth you take Hawkins " i cant prove theres no God " thing to be a minor gap in the overall picture of things,i take it to be a f****n great big gaping hole as its like saying somebody is a little bit guilty of murder !...... Anyway i think if nothing else this thread has made me realise that listening to articulate intelligent people who have well rounded knowledge from all angles like the lad on the clip i posted is the correct way of learning for folk like me who maybe lean one way further than the other but are not totally convinced either way.

 

Theres nothing to learn from repetetive meaningless bickering so i guess like anyone on any subject you stick to what makes sense and what makes sense to me is this is clearly not the place to get an answer to the Creation v Evolution debate ......not your fault granted so appreciate your thoughts.

Edited August 17, 2014 by gnasher16