socks 32,253 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Fraz wilf gnash ... Does your belief in god transcend into every day life as in do you practice what the bible says ... Turn the other cheek do not commit adultery etc ... Or is it more of a faith thing that you believe in god but don't practice what he preaches ??? ...... Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,344 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Socks, the short reply is Yes......I do live according to those principals. I believe that what you give out comes back to you, so I do my best.........as for turning the other cheek, again yes......but sometimes people make it f***ing hard !! Lol and I have to admit to falling off my perch now and again !!! Lol lol Edited November 12, 2014 by WILF 3 Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,220 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Fraz wilf gnash ... Does your belief in god transcend into every day life as in do you practice what the bible says ... Turn the other cheek do not commit adultery etc ... Or is it more of a faith thing that you believe in god but don't practice what he preaches ??? ...... From what i can make out these other lads are a bit further along than me in terms of faith i still wouldnt say mine is cemented even though i lean that way.....i still have doubts and certainly have more questions than answers but having seen with my own eyes where strong faith and christian belief has taken certain people close to me its something i cant ignore and will continue to search for better understanding.......no i have probably never lived a good christian life,but apparently the Lord doesnt give a monkeys and will still accept me anyway so i cant lose i just feel its right and proper to show that same loyalty in return and at least try to live a better life on route to hopefully one day living by the rules he sets but as im constantly told being a christian isnt easy so i dont stress over mistakes. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 yeah socks i acccepted his finished works on the cross,i beleive 100% that he died for my sins,an rose on third day,an asked him into my heart to guide an protect me an my family an repent not confess ,which means to turn away from sin ,,now since ive accepted him ive seen al change in my life for the better,its great,eg we all lusted after women,well i was no diff,i used to do it alot seeing sexy ladies an having thoughts of pleasure,you kbow what i mean lol nowadays that doesnt happen,i still see sexy ladies but rarley have the thoughts,its great another thing is drink,i drunk once in over a year nw an that was my birthday in sept,ive no urge to cloud my mind anymore,but i will drink sensibly again on ocasions.my mates laughed at me at start when i told them a. they slaged me an all that but now they know im serious about it an theyve been great but they thought i was goibg mad at start cause i was like a cursing rough an ready il kbock the fook outa you person but thank the lord i seen sense an my whole life is changed for the better its not easy alot of folk against it but im standing humble an for the truth an have a far clearer outlook in life,its hard to desribe socks i could fill pages on it but you know were im coming fron an on this forum ive gotten on peoples nerves but hey its just my opinion an nothing more, 2 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 oh an ment to say im not perfect or special nor do i look down or judge anybody,im just a humble wee man with the lord in my heart! Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 So wilf gnash and fraz excuse my ignorance but I have a poor knowledge on religion as is apparent by my very limited input on this thread ... Would you guys class yourselves as born again Christians ??? .......... Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,344 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 No mate, I was born and raised a catholic........however due to certain things I spent many years trying to make sense of it all, I spent a hell of a lot of years not giving a f**k about myself or anyone & anything else, I hurt people and I hurt myself. I had no compassion for me or my fellow human beings. I realised you can't live your life with anger or hate or revenge......it will literally eat you alive. Then the old canister got to turning, I got married and had children and that changed my life. I came to the stark realisation that who you think you are don't matter one jot, it's what you do in your day to day life that matters and how that affects everyone you encounter. I watched other people, I watched myself and hopefully I am learning. And that's just how the book lays it down. It was there all along, I just needed to understand it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 that term is used alot socks an jesus said you must be born again to see the kingdom of heaven,but alot of folk say their born again but there actions speaks louder than words, born again simply means you invite jesus into your heart an ask him to cleanse you an forgive you of all your sins,an follow his teachings,your teconnecting your spirtual side back with jesus an obey an love him,but as i said alot people say there born again but not in there heart they have a mental acceptence of jesus but not their hearts,cause if you truly belive he changes your life an attitude for the better, the few born agains ive met are most humble down to earth kind caring compassionate people iv ever come across but remember alot say they are but dont act like it cause theyve the mental acceptance not in their heart but usually you can tell by their actions 4 Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,220 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Definately not.....i dont kid myself through life.....just because i believe in the christian faith and God as the overall chief doesnt make me a christian,i dont read the bible i cant make head nor tail of it and much as id like to read it i dont feel im ready yet not if i want to understand and appreciate it rather than just read words......i do bits of research,ask questions etc and for now thats enough.......im realistic enough to know im not ready to live a good christian life in the sense of being born again as God would find me out quick enough..... but that doesnt mean i dont know its not the right way to live my life......none of us are perfect and again living a good christian life is not an easy journey to take......i think we all have a sense of the direction we feel our lives should be taking it just takes some longer than others to get there. Edited November 13, 2014 by gnasher16 4 Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I think it must be an age thing as I don't believe in god and I am not religious at all but there are things that I would never do now that I would have done in a second in my younger days ... I think you become more compassionate and have a kinder outlook on life as you mature ... I don't know if that's linked to religion or a sense of peace that we all need at a certain point in our lives ........ 2 Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,220 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I dont think thats anything to do with religion or maturity.......i think thats just developing a consience......im the same theres bad things i wont do today that i would of done in a heartbeat years ago......likewise theres good things i will do today that i wouldnt of done years ago when i had no conscience. Edited November 13, 2014 by gnasher16 2 Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I dont think thats anything to do with religion or maturity.......i think thats just developing a consience......im the same theres bad things i wont do today that i would of done in a heartbeat years ago......likewise theres good things i will do today that i wouldnt of done years ago when i had no conscience. Aye that makes more sense ....... Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,344 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Definately not.....i dont kid myself through life.....just because i believe in the christian faith and God as the overall chief doesnt make me a christian,i dont read the bible i cant make head nor tail of it and much as id like to read it i dont feel im ready yet not if i want to understand and appreciate it rather than just read words......i do bits of research,ask questions etc and for now thats enough.......im realistic enough to know im not ready to live a good christian life in the sense of being born again as God would find me out quick enough..... but that doesnt mean i dont know its not the right way to live my life......none of us are perfect and again living a good christian life is not an easy journey to take......i think we all have a sense of the direction we feel our lives should be taking it just takes some longer than others to get there. Good post that mate, I have the utmost respect for any man (weather he calls himself Christian or not) who has developed the strength to look at himself in the mirror and be honest about his strengths and his failings........that's a proper chap in my book. Personally ,in my very humble opinion, when you can do that then you can more clearly see the world and people around you. And if you can do that, then your well on your way. Cause when life is all stripped back, what matters and what brings joy to your heart?.......... JMHO Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Well I was raised without any faith no one in my family are remotely religious. No one at school or any of my school mates. What they were teaching me at school, yes I understood the Biology lessons and yes I could see the Darwin theory working in a way but there were so many unanswered questions I remember even teachers fumbled when asked. So move on a couple of decades and like Wilf I just got to start asking myself questions as it just didnt seem right. The question Ive always used to struggle to answer is this If we are a product of Darwinism and we are evolved from apes why are we so far removed and advanced than any other speicies onthis planet? Think about it why cant apes do even the simplest of things such as light fires to keep warm and cook, create clothing to wear or make basic tools? Yet here I am sat in a house typing on a computer connected to the world wide web with the TV in the back ground not to mention a million other things such as language, communiction, aviation, space travel you get the point? I just can not see how we could be so far evolved than any other speicies, that was the first question I asked and I could not find an answer, so I carried on and Im still searching but as far as Im concered after 20 years of looking Christianity is my belief and my faith. When I discovered the apostles after the crucifixion went to differnet areas of the globe and each were put to death rather than denounce what they had witnessed whilst they had been with Jesus I thought wow youd expect half of them to have backed down and said "no mate I'm making it up sorry" no they all were put to death rather than say they hadnt witnessed christ. Even the Scottish flag is taken from St Andrew one of the apostles who was asked to be crucified in an X shape rather than the the traditional cross as he didnt think it was appropriate to die the same way as Jesus. The majority of his bones are in the Cathedral at Amalfi some of his bones were brought to Scotland hence the reason he is Patron Saint so you can see this is not make belief it is history and part of our history. Ive not joined in too much on this thread but wanted to just say for the last 10 years Ive stopped being concerned what other people thought of me, many times Ive been asked if I believe in God (I used to say what me? no way non of that shit") and even people who have known me for years are gob smacked when I tell them what I believe, it either goes two ways, either they want to know more or it turns into a complete piss take which is fine because when I start asking them questions its clear they are just a product of an ignorant upbringing who have not really questioned anything in their lives. Occasionally you find somone who has a deep rooted science belief and those are the best conversations providing ridcule is not a method of conversation. At least one of my best mates is a pagan which is fine by me its up to them at least they believe in somthing, for someone to beleive in nothing now that saddens me. Sorry if I went on a bit ATB 4 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,344 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Great post seeker. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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