hutch6 550 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 walshie your beginning to be a nark mate. people are making.points an so am i from each of our perspectives, having a good old debate if you have nothing to say dont read.simple an those words you used are yours not mine im describing how im doing it an so are others that was the men of that day thats how they done it god didnt tell.them to do that mate sorry A good debate? You've called me ignorant for my views, that is not a debate that is you resorting to judgement of my character because you can't change my point of view. Now you're throwing names around and you know what the bible says about that don't you? Not once have I called you anything regardless. God didn't tell them to do that? Isn't the book of Deuteronomy God's covenant, the absolute display of what God says will happen if you disobey him and how not to disobey him, a formal agreement between God and his people? You're going to be put to death because of your views? Christians never put anyone to death because of their views did they? Oh no. Just went around giving out leaflets and if you didn't agree then, well, that's fine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 haha he must think that coming in every now an again with his wisdom lol not Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 christians know that following jesus will not be an easy life,true christians know were going to be persecuted an even put to death for jesus name sake. well be rewarded in heaven if we trust the lord here on earth,im humble an the simpliest things im happy with. an what ggib is 100% right Anybody can be happy with their lot regardless. So what rewards await you Frazdog, give me the big sell? Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 a collection of stories told over the centuries that at there heart had some element of truth, like the Babylonian arc all put together in a book but pertained to be acts of god not men in order to bring stability out of the chaos that was occurring, Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 i apologize for calling you ignorant then mate,not trying to change your view just giving my own! gods commandments are his covenant! Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 im going to leve it for a while now lads,good luck an god speed lol Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) I'd still like to see the answer to if it's correct to stone your kids to death. All you have to do is read the book of Deuteronomy or search it. Unsolved murders demand that the elder of the nearest town to the body should provide a heifer that has neither bared calf or pulled any equipment and it should be taken to a piece of uncultivated land and have it's head chopped of and the elders of the surrounding town should wash their hands in the cows blood to show God that their hands have not shed the blood of the slain person and neither have their eyes seen who did it. The it goes on about if you go to war and you take a particularly nice lady captive then as long as you shave her head, clip her nails, let her moan about her parents for a month and then she can be made your wife but you can't sell her for money if it doesn't work out. Then it's all about if you have two wives and each wife has given you a child but you hate one wife and her kid and really like the other than if the one you hate was born first then you have to give twice as much in your inheritance as the second born regardless if you can't stand the kid but you can have two wives. After that is the bit about stoning your kids to death. The it gets pretty boring going on about if you hang a person for a sin deemed worthy of the death penalty (not onto the "turn the other cheek" bit, that's ages away in the New Testament) then you can't leave them dangling there and have to remove them that day. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2021&version=KJV Edited September 16, 2014 by hutch6 Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 i apologize for calling you ignorant then mate,not trying to change your view just giving my own! gods commandments are his covenant! Not trying to change my view? You're saying that what I believe in are lies and seem to come across that you think I am incapable of making my own mind up about things. You aren't "offering" you point of view you are saying that you belief is the only truth which in turn puts everyone else who disagrees with you in the wrong camp. If you are the perfect example of what a Christian is I'd rather believe in Tolkein's Lord of The Rings, at least they had a fellowship that accepted folk from different backgrounds, different races and different creeds. I am glad I believe in what I do, and proud of it as it allows me to accept everything and everyone on this rock as just as important as anything else regardless if that living object has leaves, limbs, fins, wings or anything else. It all has a place in the world I believe in and I wouldn't be here without them, without the variety and endless possibilities. I'd much rather kids were brought up a world where they have those wonders to think about and contemplate rather than be sat in a room being told "This is how it is and everything else is lies" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Did I mention that anyone who believes in a god is mentally deficient ? Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 christians know that following jesus will not be an easy life,true christians know were going to be persecuted an even put to death for jesus name sake. well be rewarded in heaven if we trust the lord here on earth,im humble an the simpliest things im happy with. an what ggib is 100% right Rewarded in heaven, well the christians and muslims have one thing in common, heavenly rewards. Beggars belief, millions upon millions of people have died throughout the years, all 6,000 of them according to some, yet not one of those millions who have died have proven the existence of heaven, not even a post card back or nothing, unless of course they having such a good time up there they have not had time to write one. your reward fraz is here and now, when them lights go out kidda its goodnight. Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 lad well im not going to change my view on evoloution its a lie,an the fact they know its a lie ,boils my pish,sorry your as far out as fanad lighthouse,lol,just cause im voicing my opinion doesnt mean i dont love nature or or other people,lad you dont even no me,im nobetter than the next man,far from perfect but im passionate for the cause! hi were all equal under gods eyes doesnt matter, well i care about my childrens future so im gonna get even louder, lol but not ats yous,its c##ts like that richie head of b.h.a, couldnt even answer few simple qs haha Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 an the reward is to live eternally with jesus the lord an master of the world:]peace out Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Where are the lies Frazdog? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Eternal life doing what and is it only in existence whilst this world is in existence or is the sun not going to explode and swallow our little rock? Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 lad well im not going to change my view on evoloution its a lie,an the fact they know its a lie ,boils my pish,sorry your as far out as fanad lighthouse,lol,just cause im voicing my opinion doesnt mean i dont love nature or or other people,lad you dont even no me,im nobetter than the next man,far from perfect but im passionate for the cause! hi were all equal under gods eyes doesnt matter, well i care about my childrens future so im gonna get even louder, lol but not ats yous,its c##ts like that richie head of b.h.a, couldnt even answer few simple qs haha No more of a lie than some think the bible is, neither the bible or evolution have been proven 100%, but thats not to say either one is a lie? Nor is anybody in a place to call others liars for the beliefs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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