God

[bobcullen79 1,495]

spawn, tadpole, frog

egg, chicken

egg, caterpillar .pupa. butterfly

sperm, egg .cell . baby

 

so one thing to evolve into another is not possible !!!!!!

Im no scientist.. Or christian. But Im sure thats metamorphosis not evolution

[paulus 26]

 

spawn, tadpole, frog

egg, chicken

egg, caterpillar .pupa. butterfly

sperm, egg .cell . baby

 

so one thing to evolve into another is not possible !!!!!!

Im no scientist.. Or christian. But Im sure thats metamorphosis not evolution

 

where did i say it was evolution just an observation that things can become something different to what they started life as,

[Truther 1,579]

theres a sinister plot behind evoloution,if you dig you will find.

 

There's a sinister plot behind religion, no need to dig very deep lol.

 

Don't be to hard on Remybolt mate, evolving the bible in the face of science (not that i trust mainstream scientists) is the only way religion will survive, its like modern religion looking back at the Spanish inquisition, keep moving with the times and you'll keep the undecided interested eh lol.

[bobcullen79 1,495]

 

 

spawn, tadpole, frog

egg, chicken

egg, caterpillar .pupa. butterfly

sperm, egg .cell . baby

 

so one thing to evolve into another is not possible !!!!!!

Im no scientist.. Or christian. But Im sure thats metamorphosis not evolution

 

where did i say it was evolution just an observation that things can become something different to what they started life as,

 

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

spawn, tadpole, frog

egg, chicken

egg, caterpillar .pupa. butterfly

sperm, egg .cell . baby

 

so one thing to evolve into another is not possible !!!!!!

Im no scientist.. Or christian. But Im sure thats metamorphosis not evolution

 

where did i say it was evolution just an observation that things can become something different to what they started life as,

 

 

it was early

[Mr Muddy 141]

I think a few of you lads are missing the point on how evolution works. Creatures don’t magically transform from one species to another, no one is suggesting they do.

 

It’s like this:

Say thousands and thousands or years ago there was a creature that looked like a little hare. When these creatures were threatened some ran away, others dived down holes. Of the ones that ran away, the faster runners did better. Of the ones that went down holes, the better diggers survived.

Over hundreds of generations the runners bred with other runners, the diggers bred with other diggers and eventually they looked and behaved so differently we could define them as two deferent species: rabbits and hares.

 

That’s all there is to it; pretty easy to understand, you don’t have to be a scientist, you certainly don’t have to be an atheist.

 

We call it a ‘theory’ because you can still add to it and make refinements when new discoveries are made.

In this scientific context the word ‘theory’ doesn’t just mean opinion or guess.

[Mr Muddy 141]

I think a few of you lads are missing the point on how evolution works. Creatures don’t magically transform from one species to another, no one is suggesting they do.

 

It’s like this:

Say thousands and thousands or years ago there was a creature that looked like a little hare. When these creatures were threatened some ran away, others dived down holes. Of the ones that ran away, the faster runners did better. Of the ones that went down holes, the better diggers survived.

Over hundreds of generations the runners bred with other runners, the diggers bred with other diggers and eventually they looked and behaved so differently we could define them as two deferent species: rabbits and hares.

 

That’s all there is to it; pretty easy to understand, you don’t have to be a scientist, you certainly don’t have to be an atheist.

 

We call it a ‘theory’ because you can still add to it and make refinements when new discoveries are made.

In this scientific context the word ‘theory’ doesn’t just mean opinion or guess.

 

I’ve realised I could add to that – seeing as I’ve got a day off

 

So, once the populations of diggers and runners (hares and rabbits) are established – which could be hundreds, or thousands of miles apart to start with. The hares and rabbits aren’t competing against each other for resources any more, but they are both competing against the original little hare-like creature. And the little hare-like creature has still got to cope with predators that the diggers and runners are better at escaping from. So the little hare-like creature dies out - becomes extinct – so we don’t see any of them around today (except in fossils).

 

And that’s how extinction works – nothing at all to do with Noah’s ark, or anything like that.

[gnasher16 30,063]

 

I think a few of you lads are missing the point on how evolution works. Creatures don’t magically transform from one species to another, no one is suggesting they do.

 

It’s like this:

Say thousands and thousands or years ago there was a creature that looked like a little hare. When these creatures were threatened some ran away, others dived down holes. Of the ones that ran away, the faster runners did better. Of the ones that went down holes, the better diggers survived.

Over hundreds of generations the runners bred with other runners, the diggers bred with other diggers and eventually they looked and behaved so differently we could define them as two deferent species: rabbits and hares.

 

That’s all there is to it; pretty easy to understand, you don’t have to be a scientist, you certainly don’t have to be an atheist.

 

We call it a ‘theory’ because you can still add to it and make refinements when new discoveries are made.

In this scientific context the word ‘theory’ doesn’t just mean opinion or guess.

 

I’ve realised I could add to that – seeing as I’ve got a day off

 

So, once the populations of diggers and runners (hares and rabbits) are established – which could be hundreds, or thousands of miles apart to start with. The hares and rabbits aren’t competing against each other for resources any more, but they are both competing against the original little hare-like creature. And the little hare-like creature has still got to cope with predators that the diggers and runners are better at escaping from. So the little hare-like creature dies out - becomes extinct – so we don’t see any of them around today (except in fossils).

 

And that’s how extinction works – nothing at all to do with Noah’s ark, or anything like that.

 

With that in mind......given enough time should us the human race eventually end up extinct ?.....or are we the ultimate living thing that needs no improvement ?

 

Im just trying to learn and gain knowledge by the way so dont start shouting and calling me names

[Mr Muddy 141]

With that in mind......given enough time should us the human race eventually end up extinct ?.....or are we the ultimate living thing that needs no improvement ?

 

 

 

That’s a really good question mate, and one I’ve spend a lot of time musing on.

 

From what I can see; by changing our environment to suit our needs, rather than waiting for the environment to change then trying to adapt to it, we’ve taken ourselves – and a lot of species we find useful, wheat, chickens, etc – out of the evolutionary process.

 

Could we become extinct? Sure; if we’re hit by a comet, or have a nuclear war or something. But will a more successful species evolve and out-compete us? I can’t see how that could happen.

 

You would logically assume people who are born super-healthy, or people born with no appendix, or no wisdom teeth to get infected might have an evolutionary advantage. But with modern medicine they are no more or less likely to reproduce than any of us.

 

So, to answer your question: my theory is that human evolution is over, at least as long as we have modern technology, medicines etc.

[Mr Muddy 141]

 

With that in mind......given enough time should us the human race eventually end up extinct ?.....or are we the ultimate living thing that needs no improvement ?

 

 

 

That’s a really good question mate, and one I’ve spend a lot of time musing on.

 

From what I can see; by changing our environment to suit our needs, rather than waiting for the environment to change then trying to adapt to it, we’ve taken ourselves – and a lot of species we find useful, wheat, chickens, etc – out of the evolutionary process.

 

Could we become extinct? Sure; if we’re hit by a comet, or have a nuclear war or something. But will a more successful species evolve and out-compete us? I can’t see how that could happen.

 

You would logically assume people who are born super-healthy, or people born with no appendix, or no wisdom teeth to get infected might have an evolutionary advantage. But with modern medicine they are no more or less likely to reproduce than any of us.

 

So, to answer your question: my theory is that human evolution is over, at least as long as we have modern technology, medicines etc.

 

 

Small note on that:

 

If someone who survives a plague, or some third world dictator who has 100’s of kids just happens to have a white streak in their hair or six fingers or something odd like that. Then in future generations you are more likely to see more people with a streak in their hair or six fingers.

 

That would still be change through ‘random genetic mutation’ but not really natural selection due to some genetic advantage, so I’m not sure it would count as evolution.

[Deputy Dog 28]

Shep only fool I can tell is yu pal. You was owned by FM when you said there's wasnt 1 credible scientist who believed in bible, he gave you inventor of mri scanner and there's fooking loads besides. Just found out Isaac newton wrote more on bible than he did science. Yu avoided FMs queations. Now hers mine. Why do yo believe in evolution? And give some proof. All you lads been taking piss out of these religios lads asking for proof. Well where's your proof??? Not a statement genuine question.

And shepp lad, I dont know what I believe, always took evolution as factual science, been turned upside down by knowledge it is everything but factual or scientific. Nout malicious about posts. Just genuinely enjoying this thread and learning about it. Looking at other faiths, not so convincing to me as this one. Trying best with spelling lads. Don't judge. I'm dyslexic. So been told. Love new phone. Corrects for me like lol

[frazdog 252]

no difference in micro an macro evoloution haha

theres a big diff, micro variation is seen day in day out plants an animal producing after their kinds good science.

 

macro fairytale has never been seen has it no science.just faith

 

so answer me this why could animals millions of years ago mutate or reproduce a diff kind.of animal when animals cant do it these days.an i thought evoloution ment getting better so how could our primitive ancestors do something our evolved animals cant.do today. doh

 

why is monkeys still here shouldnt they have died out when they evolved to man yet their still producing monkeys.doh

darwin himself said there shiuld be millions of intermediates animal fossils found,to show the gradual change.

not one yes not one has been found in over ,supposed 60 million yrs fook me does that not. make you think 60millions yrs of evoloution an not one found its all lies.

 

darwin himself said if theirs no intermediates found his theory wouldnt stand up.

 

darwin is the main man for evo an macro evo is what it was all about fir him,so if you want to say now no its not that then scrap evoloution an tell truth about variations.

 

last thing someone said on other thread that humans have evolved as far as they can no more evolving.

answer me this how do you stop a 60million yr old prorocess.

[paulus 26]

as someone asked ages ago, "Who chopped the tails off the apes"

[Mr Muddy 141]

Well where's your proof??? Not a statement genuine question.

 

 

Here’s some pretty conclusive proof of evolution mate, if you are genuinely interested.

 

 

It’s one of the little cave crabs from Lanzarote – you might have seen them if you’ve been on holiday there.

 

The thing is; the cave they live in was created by a volcanic eruption that happened not that long ago in historic terms – certainly long, long after the creation was supposed to have happened.

Ordinary sea crabs, or their larva, were washed into the caves and over a few hundred generations they have evolved into this completely new cave adapted species.

 

Doesn’t mean you have to stop believing in God – it’s just a little crab. But I really don’t think you should regard creationism as anything other than mythology.

[Mr Muddy 141]

darwin himself said there shiuld be millions of intermediates animal fossils found,to show the gradual change.

not one yes not one has been found

 

A hundred and fifty years ago that was true.

 

Now we’ve found fossils of Australopithecus afarensis Australopithecus africanus Homo erectus Homo georgicus, Homo ergaster, Homo pekinensis, Homo heidelbergensis.

 

And that’s just human ancestors! How many missing links do you want?