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your not.confident paulas your ignorant the light year thing your trying to use is not applicable for time,the inventor states that quite cleary

 

i quoted it above , an shitipedia says the same lol

its not applicable as it does not fit in with your theories

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When I was a child I prayed to god and asked for a bike, but I knew god didn't work that way so I stole one and asked for forgiveness instead ?.

I will clearly state that my belief is that God does NOT exist. However, you can't prove that something doesn't exist, so if your telling me that I'm wrong, then I'm going to need some proof. Proof th

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no sea animals, two of every kind not species.

 

the ark was big

look in the bible the lord tell the dimensions of the ark

very unique design to stop it from capsizing in big waves

He must have been some engineer our Noah??

Anyway never mind that...my other question, why did God not just end it with a click of his fingers. Why did he go down the flood route? Cheers

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your not.confident paulas your ignorant the light year thing your trying to use is not applicable for time,the inventor states that quite cleary

 

i quoted it above , an shitipedia says the same lol

A light year is a way of measuring distance. That doesn't make much sense because "light year" contains the word "year," which is normally a unit oftime. Even so, light years measure distance.

You are used to measuring distances in either inches/feet/miles or centimeters/meters/kilometers, depending on where you live. You know how long a foot or a meter is -- you are comfortable with these units because you use them every day. Same thing with miles and kilometers -- these are nice, human increments of distance.

When astronomers use their telescopes to look atstars, things are different. The distances are gigantic. For example, the closest star to Earth (besides our sun) is something like 24,000,000,000,000 miles (38,000,000,000,000 kilometers) away. That's the closeststar. There are stars that are billions of times farther away than that. When you start talking about those kinds of distances, a mile or kilometer just isn't a practical unit to use because the numbers get too big. No one wants to write or talk about numbers that have 20 digits in them!

So to measure really long distances, people use a unit called a light year. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second (300,000 kilometers per second). Therefore, a light second is 186,000 miles (300,000 kilometers). A light year is the distance that light can travel in a year, or:

186,000 miles/second * 60 seconds/minute * 60 minutes/hour * 24 hours/day * 365 days/year = 5,865,696,000,000 miles/year

A light year is 5,865,696,000,000 miles (9,460,800,000,000 kilometers). That's a long way!

Using a light year as a distance measurement has another advantage -- it helps you determine age. Let's say that a star is 1 million light years away. The light from that star has traveled at the speed of light to reach us. Therefore, it has taken the star's light 1 million years to get here, and the light we are seeing was created 1 million years ago. So the star we are seeing is really how the star looked a million years ago, not how it looks today. In the same way, our sun is 8 or so light minutes away. If the sun were to suddenly explode right now, we wouldn't know about it for eight minutes because that is how long it would take for the light of the explosion to get here.

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Atheist are the most self righteous arrogant know all people I've ever come across they are so convinced of something they have no proof of that they feel they can be condescending and take the piss out of everyone els because they believe something different

 

Aye. You often find them on streets in town centres trying to force their leaflets into your hands, shouting crap from textbooks, all scrapping over who's quantum theory is the best, knocking on your door every weekend and asking if you've found the periodic table or turning any disused building into a place of research. Right arrogant b*****ds aren't they? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

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lab the population of the world was.corrupt an evil to the core

noah was a righteous.man loved the lord thats why he chose him to have a new convenant

So why didn't he just save Noah and his family and 2 of each animal then? Why did he choose Noah to build an Ark which took 80 years? Surely he had the power to just kill end what he wanted.

Maybe it was a test????

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lab the population of the world was.corrupt an evil to the core

noah was a righteous.man loved the lord thats why he chose him to have a new convenant

So why didn't he just save Noah and his family and 2 of each animal then? Why did he choose Noah to build an Ark which took 80 years? Surely he had the power to just kill end what he wanted.

Maybe it was a test????

 

carpentry i can see a patten forming

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Atheist are the most self righteous arrogant know all people I've ever come across they are so convinced of something they have no proof of that they feel they can be condescending and take the piss out of everyone els because they believe something different

 

Aye. You often find them on streets in town centres trying to force their leaflets into your hands, shouting crap from textbooks, all scrapping over who's quantum theory is the best, knocking on your day every weekend and asking if you've found the periodic table or turning any disused building into a place of research. Right arrogant b*****ds aren't they? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

That growl sounds mean haha but I do agree with your post arrogant b*****ds atheists are
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lab the population of the world was.corrupt an evil to the core

noah was a righteous.man loved the lord thats why he chose him to have a new convenant

So why didn't he just save Noah and his family and 2 of each animal then? Why did he choose Noah to build an Ark which took 80 years? Surely he had the power to just kill end what he wanted.

Maybe it was a test????

 

carpentry i can see a patten forming

 

Joiners perverts an liars…….bible is full of them lol

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Atheist are the most self righteous arrogant know all people I've ever come across they are so convinced of something they have no proof of that they feel they can be condescending and take the piss out of everyone els because they believe something different

Aye. You often find them on streets in town centres trying to force their leaflets into your hands, shouting crap from textbooks, all scrapping over who's quantum theory is the best, knocking on your day every weekend and asking if you've found the periodic table or turning any disused building into a place of research. Right arrogant b*****ds aren't they? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

That growl sounds mean haha but I do agree with your post arrogant b*****ds atheists are

 

Don't get me started!!

 

One knocked on my door the other weekend right when I was just about to read the story of Moses to the neighbourhood kids, anyway, I open the door and there they are in their typical lab coats, googles on their foreheads and the arrows from their Parker Pens hanging over their lapel pockets.

"How are you today?" They ask.

"Fair to middling" says I.

"Awfully sorry to bother you but we are hear to today to spread the awareness of Oxygen. Have you got Oxygen in your life?" they ask, nay, force upon me with their pens at the ready on their check sheets, no doubt doing research. Research, on my bloody doorstop!!! How dare they?!?!

"I'm sorry, but God keeps me alive with the love he provides and I eat his Son's body and drink his blood every time I go to mass so I don;t need your sodding Oxygen with its impurities and New Age rubbish."

I was just about to shut the door in their evil, non-believing faces when they had the audacity to force another piece of f-ing research on me!!

"So what are your thoughts on Fermium?"

Well I tried my best not to knock them the fook out at this point but as I am of a peaceful persuasion I figured I'd answer them.

"Oh I get it now!! This is all about that big bang thing isn't it? Why do you always have to take stuff back to that shit? Why can't you just keep your banging and your bigging to yourself? I don't go around your house or pester you whilst you;re going about your business with Jesus and the Lord God almighty, praise be his name, Holy Mary Mother of God, do I? No. So how did we get Fermium then?" I took a sharp intake of breath and thought of the persecution of Moses and the hardships he faced and that gave me the strength to endure their intrusion into my life and them forcing their Science on me.

"Well Fermium is the irradiation of........"

"No thanks" and I slammed the door in their faces.

I walked back through the house and as I got to the back garden I could here them forcing their Science on my neighbour. Who do they think they are to go around forcing their Science on folk like us? Science created oil and more wars are started over oil than anything else. Just look at the supermarket price war of 2011 or the fuel shortage of 2000 with rolling road blocks and picketed gates. I just laughed at them from atop my donkey and waved my palm leaf at them. The remains and squished bits of dinosaurs my arse!!!! Oil is nothing but shit made behind closed doors in really hot places like Saudi, that's why there is a car called Audi. It's all a conspiracy.

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Building the Ark........

 

Wood is not the best material for shipbuilding. It is not enough that a ship be built to hold together; it must also be sturdy enough that the changing stresses don't open gaps in its hull. Wood is simply not strong enough to prevent separation between the joints, especially in the heavy seas that the Ark would have encountered. The longest wooden ships in modern seas are about 300 feet, and these require reinforcing with iron straps and leak so badly they must be constantly pumped. The ark was 450 feet long.

 

Gathering the animals.......

 

Bringing all kinds of animals together in the vicinity of the ark presents significant problems.

Could animals have traveled from elsewhere? If the animals traveled from other parts of the world, many of them would have faced extreme difficulties.

  • Some, like sloths and penguins, can't travel overland very well at all.
  • Some, like koalas and many insects, require a special diet. How did they bring it along?
  • Some cave-dwelling arthropods can't survive in less than 100% relative humidity.
  • Some, like dodos, must have lived on islands. If they didn't, they would have been easy prey for other animals. When mainland species like rats or pigs are introduced to islands, they drive many indigenous species to extinction. Those species would not have been able to survive such competition if they lived where mainland species could get at them before the Flood.

Could animals have all lived near Noah? Some creationists suggest that the animals need not have traveled far to reach the Ark; a moderate climate could have made it possible for all of them to live nearby all along. However, this proposal makes matters even worse. The last point above would have applied not only to island species, but to almost all species. Competition between species would have driven most of them to extinction.

There is a reason why Gila monsters, yaks, and quetzals don't all live together in a temperate climate. They can't survive there, at least not for long without special care. Organisms have preferred environments outside of which they are at a deadly disadvantage. Most extinctions are caused by destroying the organisms' preferred environments. The creationists who propose all the species living together in a uniform climate are effectively proposing the destruction of all environments but one. Not many species could have survived that.

Bringing all kinds of animals together in the vicinity of the ark presents significant problems.

Could animals have traveled from elsewhere? If the animals traveled from other parts of the world, many of them would have faced extreme difficulties.

  • Some, like sloths and penguins, can't travel overland very well at all.
  • Some, like koalas and many insects, require a special diet. How did they bring it along?
  • Some cave-dwelling arthropods can't survive in less than 100% relative humidity.
  • Some, like dodos, must have lived on islands. If they didn't, they would have been easy prey for other animals. When mainland species like rats or pigs are introduced to islands, they drive many indigenous species to extinction. Those species would not have been able to survive such competition if they lived where mainland species could get at them before the Flood.

Could animals have all lived near Noah? Some creationists suggest that the animals need not have traveled far to reach the Ark; a moderate climate could have made it possible for all of them to live nearby all along. However, this proposal makes matters even worse. The last point above would have applied not only to island species, but to almost all species. Competition between species would have driven most of them to extinction.

There is a reason why Gila monsters, yaks, and quetzals don't all live together in a temperate climate. They can't survive there, at least not for long without special care. Organisms have preferred environments outside of which they are at a deadly disadvantage. Most extinctions are caused by destroying the organisms' preferred environments. The creationists who propose all the species living together in a uniform climate are effectively proposing the destruction of all environments but one. Not many species could have survived that.

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lab noah was a just man he loved the lord the lord saved him threw grace

an yes i think it was a test!

Well anyone who spends 80 years building something deserves to live. Well done Noah.
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You don't have to go all mathematical to prove the Earths age, some geological features or how they form prove beyond any doubt how old the planet is, river canyons with a waterfall at their head is a good example, they start life as a river running off a plateau, eventually the water wears away the rock, as thousands of years pass it creates a canyon, the waterfall at the head keeps moving backwards or away from the plateau edge continually, how long for a river canyon to get 100 yds long, 1 mile long, i don't know the answer, but i do know its not 6000 years :blink:

i put a picture up of a 9000 year old tree but apparently the dating was wrong, stars over 6000 light years away the measurement is wrong :laugh:

 

Its like banging your head on a brick wall mate lol. I never understand how they can't see religion is just a control tool used by the powers that be its full of gaping holes a child could figure out, yet intellegent people swallow it hook line and sinker :hmm: Even a complete numpty can see the Koran is based on the bible and tora, and the bible/tora are based on the sumarian tablets and maybe the Babalonian writings, there's dozens of the same stories with the names changed a bit "Gilgamesh" being the sumarian version of noah lol, nearly every race has a jesus character, most were born to "virgins" lmao, the bibles the most edited book in history, bits taken out or left in to suit pretty pathetic really :laugh:

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