God

[frazdog 252]

Hello walshie, you didnt want to be in this debate, but you are now lol

If were werent created, an we didnt evolve threw, naturalistic process, what other theory have you got, bearing in mind that if your going to say aliens, they how did they get here, but I dont beleive in them, im just stating it before you reply, thanks

[walshie 2,804]

Hello walshie, you didnt want to be in this debate, but you are now lol

If were werent created, an we didnt evolve threw, naturalistic process, what other theory have you got, bearing in mind that if your going to say aliens, they how did they get here, but I dont beleive in them, im just stating it before you reply, thanks

 

That's easy. None of it matters to me.

 

As far as I'm concerned, I'm here and that's what counts. Theories about big bangs and stuff written a long time ago has no bearing on my life whatsoever.

 

I'm not sure how diesel engines work, but as long as my van and jeep get me where I'm going, I don't need to know.

[frazdog 252]

Well thats fair enough, you dont care, so why you adding your two pence worth, an then saying you dont care, doesnt make sense walshie.

[hutch6 550]

Now this theory of of dead matter arising spontaneously has been proven wrong fifty years ago fact, so atheist havent a leg to stand on they need faith an beleif, for evoloution,

So dead matter can't all of a sudden get up and come to life, that's a fact? How's Easter working out for you? You roll that stone away, laddy.

 

As for the argument that Atheists wouldn't stand-up to a religious uprising, I think you'll find if push comes to shove I take a firm stance that nobody has the right to kill or suppress others in the name of a belief system. Those that do use it as an excuse for abhorrent behaviour and atrocities against their fellow human species.

If I am held at knife point and asked to convert to any religion my reaction would be the same either way "Is this how you are all converted?". No threat of death is going to convert an atheist or anyone of any other religion. An atheist has no afterlife to live for so might as well go down fighting if you can, who knows, you might win. A believer in another religion believes in an afterlife so what have they got to worry about? The threat of death to convert people is the totally wrong marketing campaign but being Christians you'll be fully aware of what the inquisitions resulted in, right set of values. Hang on, is that what prompted the scenario of having a knife to my throat and being asked to convert or die? Seems a bit of a coincidence.

 

Edited to remove Christian association from the Inquisitions. They still led the Crusades though as they felt they needed a greater presence in Bethlehem despite being in Europe and Bethlehem being in the middle East - Remember, hearts and minds people, if they don't believe then cut stop their heart by detaching their mind from their body, that seems to work pretty well.

Edited January 6, 2015 by hutch6

[Lenmcharristar 9,727]

Wlashie is getting an itchy trigger finger and wants to lock this debate lololol

[walshie 2,804]

Well thats fair enough, you dont care, so why you adding your two pence worth, an then saying you dont care, doesnt make sense walshie.

 

Because I can add my 2 pence worth whenever I like in an open discussion.

[frazdog 252]

Hutchy its no bother for creationist to beleive that jesus resurected from death, so as to conquer it, thats why he came here to overcome what the devil, accomplished, bringing death into the world via sin, when he tricked eve in the garden.

 

That was a supernatural act of God raising christ jesus from the dead, but hold on atheists dont beleive in the supernatural, so why you using jesus resurection for your point when you dont beleive it happened, now thats stupid.

 

Hutchy were the smartest an most evolved right now according to atheists, yet you cant make a grain of sand in the lab, let alone life, an its been proven by science, that life cannot arise from nothing, fact

[WILF 46,603]

I don't need proof because I have faith.......as far as I am concerned everyone can drive themselves mad proving things till the cows come home, I trust what I feel.

 

A person who has faith in their heart shouldn't want or need to look for proof......why would you ?

Edited January 6, 2015 by WILF

[frazdog 252]

Ok walshie no bother, but your two pence worth, will be torn apart, so just letting you know in advance.

[walshie 2,804]

Ok walshie no bother, but your two pence worth, will be torn apart, so just letting you know in advance.

 

Go for it!

[mushroom 12,870]

Lmao fraz are you that mental you actually believe you are winning an argument??

 

That's precious :laugh:

[frazdog 252]

Your not going to like this wilf, lol, but thats what mormons say awe we get the feeling inside, imo you can be easily deceived by your feelings, thats how pilots crash, or lose control, cause they follow their feeling, instead of the dials, not a pop mate just a bit of truth.

[WILF 46,603]

And here's a bit of truth for you my friend, if you cant feel it and your having to force it then you only want it.....but you have not really got it yet.

No good talking the talk if your heart don't walk the walk

[frazdog 252]

Gret rebuttal as always mushy, but im just putting the creation argument here, is that ok with you.

 

Im not having a pop mushy but why dont you say what you think instead of, one liners, I think your afraid to incase its wrong or people dont agree, I dont think your ego an pride would like that,

[hutch6 550]

Islam is on the march across europe and from what I can see irish and British people's descendants could be in trouble if we are all complacent about our beliefs and culture

 

Woah there Christian soldier!!!

 

It wasn't too long ago that folk were saying the exact same things about Christianity. Do try to remember that Christianity, by recorded fact, is still by a very long way the most violent religious belief system the world has ever seen, a long, long way in front of any other.