Truther 1,579 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Nah cause walshie ,said, not to be insulting an youve insulted me already. But here type your question into google, an you will find your answer, now off you pop. Did I insult you? I fail to see where. As for the whole google my question, what a surprise. God created time and as God created time then God exists outside of time and is therefore multi-dimensional and can exist in two dimension of time thus God can travel through time and isn't exposed to cause and effect yet God uses this quite well to their advantage a whole multitude of times. Who writes this stuff? God can travel to any point in time, any point in time at any point of time and yet God started where? In the Beginning of course. Not the middle or the bit after lunch, in the beginning. God created Adam, a 25-30yr old man who never once wondered where the chuffing heck he came from and how he appeared out of nowhere or even more mind bending why God had to take one of his ribs and then suddenly Eve appeared. Not once did Adam question how that was done.They had no means of writing anything down or documenting their existence so what evidence is there to back up that this actually happened? IF your lady partner gives birth to a baby girl you don't have to give up a rib, they are born exactly the same way as boys are and all other mammals regardless of what sex they are. Bit of a coincidence all that afterbirth stuff with every mammal don't you think? If God created Adam and made it so Adam couldn't give birth then did Adam have nipples? If not then we are all created in Eve's image not God's or Adam's as both sexes in mammals all have nipples (all foetus start out in the female form). Frazdog and Kev, you should be able to answer this one straight away, no thinking about it. You both die and are whisked off up to heaven. As you're both walking around you see millions of people wandering about etc. Suddenly a man walks passed you and Frazdog says"Hi Adam!" Kev then turn to Fraz and asks "How did you know that was Adam?" Before Fraz can answer a woman walks passed and Fraz says "Hi Eve". Again, Kev asks "How did you know that was Eve?" So how would you know Adam and Eve from every other person in Heaven? "As for the whole google my question, what a surprise. God created time and as God created time then God exists outside of time and is therefore multi-dimensional and can exist in two dimension of time thus God can travel through time and isn't exposed to cause and effect yet God uses this quite well to their advantage a whole multitude of times" My point a few pages back, if god made time, he's got to be on the outside of something he created, so he knows all time, and all the end results, a pointless existence? Or there's greater forces than him, like time itself? How many re runs can you watch? Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Why do so called christians use so much profanity? And why would they hunt animals just for fun? Does not sound very christian to me, just saying like. With all my foul language and love of hunting I would hate to be a christian, I don't think I could cope with the hypocrisy. Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,086 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 yes the old an new, new kid Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Have dominion over the fish of the sea, birds of the air and over every living thing that moves on the earth Genesis 1:28 Edited January 5, 2015 by kevin kiely Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) If I was a Muslim looking at this I'd be thinking its possible to turn Ireland and britain into Islamic states because the natives are so divided against each other Edited January 5, 2015 by kevin kiely 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 If I was a Muslim looking at this I'd be thinking its possible to turn Ireland and britain into Islamic states because the natives are so divided against each other People who already believe in a god are easier to convert to islam, or any other religion, an atheist population would be harder to conquer, think again sunshine Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Well gnash if on the one hand you find my opinions on God interesting, an on the other iim not the best spokesman for christians, your confusing me lol. As I said before, im a biblical christian, an what God says, is final, so if thats not right for christians what is could you explain to me. Think about this gnash, have you a healthy fear of God, which is also in scripture, or are you out to please yourself, an please others in whatever shape or form. Read job 38 to 41, God asks job consectutive questions, with no answer from job, then the last chapter is this [*1*] Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? [*2*] Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? [*3*] Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? [*4*] Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? [*5*] Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens? [*6*] Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? [*7*] Canst thou fill his skin with barbed iron? or his head with fish spears? [*8*] Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more. [*9*] Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? [*10*] None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me? leviatian is t.rex Read the last line, God is setting up job to help him to understand, he lost his fear of God, how big is your God gnash, is he big enough for you,to obey, to tell you what to wear eat etc. Jmo but I think alot of christians have lost there fear of God, an are feared of there mates or the lads in the bar or gym , he wanted job to realise that on judgement day, it wont matter what your mates said or the boy in gym, the only thing that will matter is what God has to say,an on judgement day, you cant turn it back, hopefully I explained my position a bit clearer. When i said you are not the best spokesperson for Christians i meant for me,i cant talk for others thats for them to decide....which after reading some of the lads thoughts i think some feel the same........i dont know what you are like in the real world but if you come across as you come across on here and i wanted to listen,learn,understand and grow as a Christian i think you would take me 3 steps backwards for every 1 step forward.....ive a few friends who have been Christians probably longer than you have been alive and they dont carry on like you do.........i dont know your life and i dont want to but the few Christians i regularly talk to have led very full lives and been tested for values that i respect,their learnings about God have parallelled with their learnings on life rather than obssesively reciting scripture and its something i can relate to as a person who is not totally 100% convinced or committed yet. You come across like you are on a christian recruiting campaign and seem overly eager to me.....for somebody who by their own admission has only been a Christian a few years i find it a little bit much so i,ll bow out of this conversation and stick with what/who i know as i think even on this thread there are people with much greater wisdom and opinions who are not posting probably for the same reasons as me..........and thats a shame. Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I disagree son a staunch Christian won't change faiths whereas people who believe in nothing and only interested in their day to day are more likely to be converted.even if they don't a strong Christian country would be harder to convert than a country made up of staunch Christians staunch atheists and most that don't think about it.anyway they are more likely to breed us out than convert us Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,086 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) If I was a Muslim looking at this I'd be thinking its possible to turn Ireland and britain into Islamic states because the natives are so divided against each otherI don't think religion is the thing that binds us together mate, there are a lot if common values we all share which for me out weigh religion and religion only.Look at the troubles around the world caused by divides in who are supposed to be the same religions, different types of Muslims will fight each other let alone Christians. I would say religion brings world harmony. Mind you you don't see many wars started by Buddhists? They seem a pretty peaceful bunch. Edited January 5, 2015 by NEWKID Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 When i said you are not the best spokesperson for Christians i meant for me,i cant talk for others thats for them to decide....which after reading some of the lads thoughts i think some feel the same........i dont know what you are like in the real world but if you come across as you come across on here and i wanted to listen,learn,understand and grow as a Christian i think you would take me 3 steps backwards for every 1 step forward.....ive a few friends who have been Christians probably longer than you have been alive and they dont carry on like you do.........i dont know your life and i dont want to but the few Christians i regularly talk to have led very full lives and been tested for values that i respect,their learnings about God have parallelled with their learnings on life rather than obssesively reciting scripture and its something i can relate to as a person who is not totally 100% convinced or committed yet. You come across like you are on a christian recruiting campaign and seem overly eager to me.....for somebody who by their own admission has only been a Christian a few years i find it a little bit much so i,ll bow out of this conversation and stick with what/who i know as i think even on this thread there are people with much greater wisdom and opinions who are not posting probably for the same reasons as me..........and thats a shame. Blessed is the man: who's delight is in the law of The Lord and in his law he meditates day and night Psalms 1:2 So you see we are supposed to read the word every day.its not unusual for a Christian to read the bible everyday,the more the better.even those that do might not reach heaven Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Newkid I don't think that these people fight because of the beliefs being different and they are so passionate they need to kill one another.the religions are the dividing lines and those who want to divide and conquer will use these differences to keep the majority of the population under control by them ,the wealthy elite. Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 There are a few extremists that are brainwashed into killing over beliefs alone but ultimately they are being exploited by some greater geopolitical strategy behind the scenes IMO Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,086 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Funny my dad, being from Irish descent, was schooled by nuns in a Roman Catholic school. They tried to force religion onto the kids, and according to him were some of the most evil people he's come accross ( and considering his life that says a fair bit). He's not a religious man now. Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I disagree son a staunch Christian won't change faiths whereas people who believe in nothing and only interested in their day to day are more likely to be converted.even if they don't a strong Christian country would be harder to convert than a country made up of staunch Christians staunch atheists and most that don't think about it.anyway they are more likely to breed us out than convert us So Kevin, you think someone who already believes in a god, despite no evidence, AT ALL, is less likely to convert than someone who is staunchly opposed to any god, and thinks the whole idea of a god is an insult to their intelligence I don't think so mate Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I agree,men who were taught by the Christian brothers have turned from god also. But if they were cruel to children they can't be true Christians can they.they were employed by the Vatican and maybe that was infiltrated by those against Christianity it would be the best place to sabotage if u were against Christ Link to post Share on other sites
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