gnasher16 30,098 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) , I have also witnessed some of the biggest changes ever in folk that have accepted god, I openly admit to being a believer,beven if I don't know all the facts, I may be deluded but I'm happy Exactly the same as me only i dont feel im deluded......i dont see the issue with believing but not knowing exactly why,like anything we do in life we have an instinct to follow in the direction our heart takes us...... and along that path im yet to see anything that makes me stand back and say no this is wrong,so with no bias i,ll continue to push more doors open until im completely happy with what i know to be truth in heart and mind......its part of what i find hard to accept with non believers and aethiests in that it leaves no room for human emotions. The way they say " its a coping mechanism " well coping with what .... i have nothing in my life i need God to cope with for me my relationship with God is through choice not necessity. Edited November 18, 2014 by gnasher16 2 Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Meanwhile down on Reality Street.... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xixefv_sex-crimes-and-vatican-eng-sub-ita_shortfilms Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 isnt that proof that the devil exists Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,098 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Thats a bit strong calling him the devil he,s just some little bloke no c**t can understand 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 best way to turn people away from the church Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,915 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Fraz show me where the bible says the ottomans will rise again???? Islam didn't even exist when the bible was written Tard like every other basher, trying to apply fairystories to anything you can to validate them. Pretty sad really mate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I think when people say "it's a coping mechanism", they're explanation/theory is perhaps a bit misunderstood.... or at least not fully explained. My opinion is that faith is a coping mechanism, theism is an extrapolation of faith which very satisfactorily answers many more of the Universes unknowns. We all have faith, even us atheists, it's part of being human. Faith is simply belief in the absence of evidence, it's belief against probability..... it's absolutely necessary to our survival and in difficult situations it's people that have faith that they'll come good that will stand the best chance of actually coming out in one piece. They fight on when there is no hope because something inside them tells them everything will be alright. Some people associate that with a higher being and others, more rationally associate it with an evolved mechanism of our psychology. But we ALL have faith in us! Religion, or more generally theism, is just, imo, a natural progression from that. In a world with so many questions and so much unknown God ties it all up quite nicely... So this "coping mechanism" theory isn't unique to theists, it doesn't make anybody weak or stupid! No doubt some people follow religion through their own weaknesses and some reject it through weakness. I'd actually say they are rejecting truth through weakness but whatever. Nonetheless, we are all human and whether you are a theist or an atheist it doesn't make you weak or strong of mind simply based on that alone. Weakness is hiding from the truth because it scares you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 isnt that proof that the devil exists No...that's an opinion, folk on here get them two very mixed up. What it is proof of is the seen is very different to the unseen. Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Fraz show me where the bible says the ottomans will rise again???? Islam didn't even exist when the bible was written Tard like every other basher, trying to apply fairystories to anything you can to validate them. Pretty sad really mate. tard like every other basher says the idiot with a magic mushroom on his profile Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 'petty'... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/mar/28/pope-benedict-sexual-abuse-scandal Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 how can you dismiss a books contents without actually reading it Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,915 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Because it is a book of fairytales pal xxx Makes me laugh that any of you believe it. I mean the noah's ark for example a story from pre Jewish times as in before the feckin bible was ever a twinkle in a lonely nutters eye. This story was in Gilgamesh's tales ffs and you tits claim it as fact. Believing that all of humanity I decendrd from just two people (factually impossible due to the amount of differnces in DNA, genes and mutations) yeah we are the idiots said it before i'd put more stock on a MR Men book 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 impossible to man not to god your thinking is that man cant do any of this, so you think there could never have been a flood or someone couldnt have built a ship made from timber? "i dont have to sell my soul hes already in me is there a reason why you are so anti god? Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,915 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ffs another one I noticed you skipped the fact that most of the stories originally didn't even have anything to so with your god A belief in god is one thing, taking the bible as factual account is as retarded as voting labour lol but sure as there is a blue sky above me right now those tards exist ps your new testement is full of shoite aswell just look up roman records from the time of baby Jesus totally conflicting with the crap written 100-300 years after the bugger snuffed it Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 this proves your ignorance on the subject the original stories are about god the father whereas jesus was prophesised in it put a link up of the roman records if it was that easy to disprove it would have been disproved long ago there is records by a roman general who was an independent historian who wrote about jesus and it does match up to the timeline youv been deceived by the liberals and coditioned by the modern world where do you get your info Link to post Share on other sites
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