paulus 26 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 paulas you must have repeated this q many a time were you not satisfied with the answer you got anyway,its far from a coping mechanism,could you explain paulas A coping mechanism, when people need more than what's in their life or an escape from the direction their life is panning out, Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 paulas you must have repeated this q many a time were you not satisfied with the answer you got anyway,its far from a coping mechanism,could you explain paulas A coping mechanism, when people need more than what's in their life or an escape from the direction their life is panning out, I agree it may be a comfort for some is that not better than turning to drink or drugs to find answers where non lie? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,036 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 is faith not the same as alcohol or drugs, some humans need a coping mechanism, Telling someone with a faith that it's a "coping mechanism" is like telling someone with a back ache that they just want a rest........you don't feel what they feel, it's simply that you don't believe it possible. Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 is faith not the same as alcohol or drugs, some humans need a coping mechanism, Telling someone with a faith that it's a "coping mechanism" is like telling someone with a back ache that they just want a rest........you don't feel what they feel, it's simply that you don't believe it possible. why else would faith be of comfort? they all say the same thing about being in a better place etc. but does that not mean there was something missing in the first place?, most alcoholics or drug addicts do what they do for similar reasons in as much as they to are looking for more than life has to offer or to blot out the bad that's happened in their lives, i know it seems an odd comparison but think about it Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,036 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Mate it's very hard to explain, I can't speak for everyone but I pick up on things, feelings that I get from places or situations.......like I can feel this energy coming from the world around me. My faith gives me clarity, clarity to see through the fog of day to day life to what really matters, it let's me see joy in the very simplistic things of life and situations, it let me see darkness in men's hearts and also the good. It's more than that and a thick bloke like me doesn't have the vocabulary to describe it properly but to me, it's real. Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I used to be like you lot, f***ing stupid, then i woke up, to busy in the wrong direction like good little sheep, lmao, f***ing pathetic. Would you like to elaborate on that sentence? Or shall it remain a mystery till it drops off these pages? TC Sorry TC, its not very clear is it mate lol. Not about religion, so ill keep it brief, the lads wasting their time on politics thinking its real, when its just a diversion like many other things. The real situation is politics is controlled by finance, and any idiot can google it and see its not a conspiracy, its not even hidden. The fact is private companies and certain individuals control politics for their own ends, political parties do as they are told, end of. Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 paulas you must have repeated this q many a time were you not satisfied with the answer you got anyway,its far from a coping mechanism,could you explain paulas A coping mechanism, when people need more than what's in their life or an escape from the direction their life is panning out, It's often said that religion was created by humans as a means to cope with their own mortality. Have we advanced to the stage were we believe that we are only on this planet as part of a journey to the all welcoming god in the after life? One of the most pathetic things Iv'e heard is when some deluded people come out with the statement "our body is merely a vessel for our spirit through our journey of life". How on earth can anybody with any reasonable power of thought come out with such nonsense. Well, no one has reported back from the other side, none of us who are alive have been to the other side, and we don't have any factual evidence supporting these beliefs or notions. In my opinion, which I think I am not far from the truth is, we share this planet with hundreds of thousands of other living creatures and are no more immortal than any of them. Like Paulus said, a coping mechanism for comfort for those who cannot face death for what it is, the end of their existence. Granted it would be a marvellous thought if it were true, but that's all it is, a thought. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Mate it's very hard to explain, I can't speak for everyone but I pick up on things, feelings that I get from places or situations.......like I can feel this energy coming from the world around me. My faith gives me clarity, clarity to see through the fog of day to day life to what really matters, it let's me see joy in the very simplistic things of life and situations, it let me see darkness in men's hearts and also the good. It's more than that and a thick bloke like me doesn't have the vocabulary to describe it properly but to me, it's real. if you look at nature it is easy to see what really matters, food, shelter,safety and protection from the weather the rest is just trappings that we think we need to be happy, to some people this is a BMW to others its a mansion, others, designer clothes, but does any of that really make them truly happy or its that happiness derived from having more than someone else, again this is mirrored in religion, this shows when people will only accept what they think they have is better than what everyone else has!. Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,036 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) paulas you must have repeated this q many a time were you not satisfied with the answer you got anyway,its far from a coping mechanism,could you explain paulas A coping mechanism, when people need more than what's in their life or an escape from the direction their life is panning out, It's often said that religion was created by humans as a means to cope with their own mortality. Have we advanced to the stage were we believe that we are only on this planet as part of a journey to the all welcoming god in the after life?[/size] One of the most pathetic things Iv'e heard is when some deluded people come out with the statement "our body is merely a vessel for our spirit through our journey of life". How on earth can anybody with any reasonable power of thought come out with such nonsense.[/size] Well, no one has reported back from the other side, none of us who are alive have been to the other side, and we don't have any factual evidence supporting these beliefs or notions. In my opinion, which I think I am not far from the truth is, we share this planet with hundreds of thousands of other living creatures and are no more immortal than any of them.[/size] Like Paulus said, a coping mechanism for comfort for those who cannot face death for what it is, the end of their existence.[/size] Granted it would be a marvellous thought if it were true, but that's all it is, a thought. [/size] Well that's conclusive then, all believers have been deluding themselves all along. Hers a news flash for you, I don't ever think about death.......faith is about life. I don't claim to understand people without faith so how come they know all about people with a faith ? How condescending is that !!.......if you don't get it then you don't get, don't blame it on others being deluded just be honest and say you are incapable of understanding !! Edited November 16, 2014 by WILF 4 Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 Do the practising christians on this site tell thier kids JC was'nt actually born on December the 25th? or do they keep stum? Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have few replys to get to after I give dogs a wee bath lol but trim what are you talking about? lol Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 paulas you must have repeated this q many a time were you not satisfied with the answer you got anyway,its far from a coping mechanism,could you explain paulasA coping mechanism, when people need more than what's in their life or an escape from the direction their life is panning out, It's often said that religion was created by humans as a means to cope with their own mortality. Have we advanced to the stage were we believe that we are only on this planet as part of a journey to the all welcoming god in the after life?[/size] One of the most pathetic things Iv'e heard is when some deluded people come out with the statement "our body is merely a vessel for our spirit through our journey of life". How on earth can anybody with any reasonable power of thought come out with such nonsense.[/size] Well, no one has reported back from the other side, none of us who are alive have been to the other side, and we don't have any factual evidence supporting these beliefs or notions. In my opinion, which I think I am not far from the truth is, we share this planet with hundreds of thousands of other living creatures and are no more immortal than any of them.[/size] Like Paulus said, a coping mechanism for comfort for those who cannot face death for what it is, the end of their existence.[/size] Granted it would be a marvellous thought if it were true, but that's all it is, a thought. [/size] Well that's conclusive then, all believers have been deluding themselves all along. Hers a news flash for you, I don't ever think about death.......faith is about life. I don't claim to understand people without faith so how come they know all about people with a faith ? How condescending is that !!.......if you don't get it then you don't get, don't blame it on others being deluded just be honest and say you are incapable of understanding !! Incapable of understanding what? please don't reply " exactly" lol……… To many tall stories surrounding the creation theory for my liking to even try and understand, and yes just as many surrounding the evolution theory. So were does that leave us, both parties coming back with, "prover it" Let's just be happy to beg to differ, and not offend anybody in the process 1 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 truly it saddens me to see people so against the creator,i mean people think im nuts for beleiving the bible when they havent truly researched the whole picture,more or less slaging an making fun but I dont blame them I blame the advesary for the excellent job hes done to make people doubt the creator,cause he hates our guts cause were made in gods image he cant do nothing to the almighty but he can harm us in every way possible,from evo,to aliens to ghost,to new age etc all great deceptions not one of them leads to happiness an joy they all lead to shite an lies, the list goes on,but the bible warns us of it all if people would look,i mean if it was wrote by men how come all the warnings are in there of todays madness.but there are alot of people who jnow the truth but just refuse to accept it so they run after their selfish lusts trying to supress the guilt I cant describe it my relationship with the creator,words cant describe it it amazing an fufilling an know I know yruth im settled an humble an peaceful,were as before I found the truth I was out for living an sinning,an I didnt need a coping mechanism then an I dont need one nw im not a writer im shit at describing things in word,but I could say tonnes more if it was face to face,but hey im just a nutter who beleives bible,yeha praise the lord Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 do you not think del you have to dig deep an search for truth,you cant hide your head in the fantasy land all our lives,the truth is there if you look,well took me a coiple of years research but I finally got their,. ehat I dont understand is if the bible or christianity are lies an for nutters,why is the worlds top people doing there very best to ridicule an destroy it,if your a beleiver these days your classed as deluded haha everyone is against the bible an this thread shows it,but it gives me great satisfaction to know that theres hundreds if not thousands of people right now an in the past trying to discredit,or find lies etc anything to play it down,but not one person has suceeded,i wonder why? Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 question for the people,if im wrong an your right about evoloution,whats the meaning of life?after all were here by chance,just a cosmic burp in the universe were no one can tell right from wrong? an all were doing is existing with no meaning trying to get upper hand on the next man,in fact were part of the problem we need to die to so the superor race can evolve even further,the weakest die,i mean whats the meaning of life if you beleive in evoloution? Link to post Share on other sites
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