frazdog 252 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 paulas the tablets that were found were localized flooding storys,tbe bible is a ww flood we already established this ages ago! Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 question for bh paulas wilf gnasher, do you beleive in prophesy? Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 I don't really care what you're supposed to say. Should I?...... Oh no wait a minute, you want to paint me as someone trying to convert you! When I really couldn't give a f**k. You follow whatever you want to follow mate. So somebody constantly discusses a subject they dont even believe exists....and theres no purpose to it ?.....nah i dont buy it i reckon its either Jehova,s type preaching or a need to flex the old mental muscles myself.....but f**k it you dont care anyway do you Well, there we have it. Atheists aren't allowed to discuss their beliefs... Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 question for bh paulas wilf gnasher, do you beleive in prophesy? well the mayan one didn't go to well Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 the bible is a special book wrote by men filled with the holy spirit,the bible is a holy book,quran or any other are not holy books they were not authored by the one true god the creator of heaven an earth. the lord god threw his prophets has given man his testament of how we should live a loving an truthful life by obeying his laws,an also wisdom truth an fullfillment of PROPHECY to show man that ye were told before it happens,an theres hundreds of prophesys in the bible. no other man ever on earth has given any credible prophesy,you say nostradamus,well his were quatrains,an there riddles that have been proved false,witch he obtained by looking into a crystal ball. i urge any on here to show me any prophesy that anyone has said an then came true at a later date any other religon muslin budda etc thats prophesy,the bible prophesy is clear an not fill of guesswork,there wrote plain an simple an easy to understand. here are a few egs of prophesy that has been fufilled recentley straight outa bible 1. Israel will prevail over its enemies Bible passage: Isaiah 41:12-14 Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC Fulfilled: late 1900s In Isaiah 41:12-14, the prophet said God would help Israel during times of conflict with enemies (if the people have faith in God). Isaiah said this during a time when the northern kingdom of Israel had already been conquered by the Assyrian Empire. And the southern kingdom, Judah, was about to be conquered by Babylon. (The Bible explains that Israel and Judah lost their independence because so many of the residents had turned to false religions). But, since 1948 when Israel was re-established, Israel has been attacked by much-larger countries. And Israel has prevailed in each of those attacks. This prophecy has found partial fulfillment; Christian scholars believe that a time will come when all of Israel's enemies are destroyed. "*Here is Isaiah 41:12-14*" Though you search for your enemies, you will not find them. Those who wage war against you will be as nothing at all. For I am the Lord, your God, who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you. Do not be afraid, O worm Jacob, O little Israel, for I myself will help you," declares the Lord, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. 2. The ruins of Israel would be rebuilt Bible passage: Amos 9:11, 13 Written: about 750 BC Fulfilled: late 1900s In Amos 9:11, 13, the prophet said that God would restore the land of David. (King David ruled Israel from about 1010 BC to about 970 BC). The land of David - Israel - was conquered and destroyed by the Babylonians, Assyrians and Romans. The land has been in ruins for much of the past 2000 years. The Jews, who had been scattered throughout the world, began to return in large numbers during the past 100 years. Since then, they have been rebuilding many of Israel's ancient cities. Amos also said there would be continuous planting and harvesting. During the past 100 years, the Jews have been using advanced farming and irrigation techniques to turn barren land into productive farmland. Today, Israel is a source of food for many countries. "*Here is Amos 9:11, 13*" "In that day I will restore David's fallen tent. I will repair its broken places, restore its ruins, and build it as it used to be,'' "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman and the planter by the one treading grapes. New wine will drip from the mountains and flow from all the hills." 3. Ezekiel prophesied prosperity for modern-day Israel Bible passage: Ezekiel 36:11 Written: between 593-571 BC Fulfilled: late 1900s In Ezekiel 36:11, the prophet said that there would come a time when Israel would be more prosperous than it was in the past. The Bible describes Israel as being a prosperous nation during the time of King David and King Solomon about 3000 years ago. But, Ezekiel knew a very different Israel. In Ezekiel's day (he lived about 2600 years ago), the northern kingdom of Israel already had been decimated by the Assyrians, and the southern kingdom (called Judah) was being destroyed by the Babylonians. In the centuries that followed these destructions, Jews rebuilt the city of Jerusalem, but their homeland was destroyed again, by the Romans, about 1900 years ago. Since then, a majority of Jews have lived in exile. But during the past 100 years, millions of Jews from around the world moved to Israel and they have been rebuilding the country once again. Today, Israel again is an independent nation, as it was in the days of King David, and it is one of the world's most prosperous countries. In 1999, Israel had the highest per capita Gross Domestic Product of any nearby country, even though the surrounding countries have many oil resources. "*Here is Ezekiel 36:11*" I will increase the number of men and animals upon you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the Lord. 4. Trees again would grow in Israel Bible passage: Isaiah 41:18-20 Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC Fulfilled: late 1900s In Isaiah 41:18-20, the prophet's talk of a future restoration of Israel coincides with an occurrence in modern Israel - the construction of a vast irrigation system to improve farming. The lack of available water, including rain, is one reason why Israel had been a desolate, unproductive land during much of the past 2000 years. But, during the 1900s, when many Jews returned to their ancient homeland, they built a network of irrigation systems. And during the past century, more than 200 million trees have been planted in Israel. "*Here is Isaiah 41:18-20*" I will make rivers flow on barren heights, and springs within the valleys. I will turn the desert into pools of water, and the parched ground into springs. I will put in the desert the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive. I will set pines in the wasteland, the fir and the cypress together, so that people may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the Lord has done this, that the Holy One of Israel has created it. 5. Isaiah said Israel's fruit would fill the world Bible passage: Isaiah 27:6 Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC Fulfilled: late 1900s In Isaiah 27:6, the prophet said Israel would one day blossom and fill the world with fruit. This prophecy has been at least partially fulfilled, literally and symbolically. Today, the land of Israel, which had been barren for centuries, is a leading producer of agricultural products, exporting food to many countries. This prophecy also has been fulfilled symbolically with the worldwide spread of Christianity. Christianity, which began with Jesus in Israel, now has about 2 billion followers worldwide. "*Here is Isaiah 27:6*" In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. 6. Jerusalem would become the world's most important religious site Bible passage: Micah 4:1 Written: sometime between 750-686 BC Fulfilled: Today In Micah 4:1, the prophet said that the Temple mount in Jerusalem would become the focal point of the world. This prophecy has not yet been fulfilled. But, it is interesting to note that Jerusalem is, and has been for centuries, the world's most important religious site. Christians and Jews regard the city as the world's most important, and Christians and Jews comprise about one-third of the world's population. No other city in the world is a religious focal point to as many people. "*Here is Micah 4:1*" In the last days the mountain of the Lord's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and peoples will stream to it. 7. Egypt would never again rule over other nations Bible passage: Ezekiel 29:15 Written: between 593-571 BC Fulfilled: 1967, etc. In Ezekiel 29:15, the prophet says that Egypt would recover from a desolation (perhaps Babylon's attack about 2600 years ago), but that it would never again rule over other nations. Up until the time of Ezekiel, Egypt had been a world power for centuries, dominating many nations, including Israel. But for most of the past 2500 years, Egypt has been controlled by foreign powers, including the Romans, Ottomans and Europeans. Today, Egypt is an independent nation again. In 1948, 1967 and 1973, Egypt tried to dominate Israel but was unsuccessful each time, despite the fact that Egypt is 10 times larger than Israel. Since the time of Ezekiel, Egypt no longer rules over other nations. "*Here is Ezekiel 29:15*" It will be the lowliest of kingdoms and will never again exalt itself above the other nations. I will make it so weak that it will never again rule over the nations. 8. Zechariah prophesied the Jews return to Jerusalem Bible passage: Zechariah 8:7-8 Written: between 520 and 518 BC Fulfilled: 1967, etc. In Zechariah 8:7-8, the prophet said God would bring the Jews back from the east and the west to their homeland (Israel) and that they would be able to live in the city of Jerusalem again. This prophecy has been fulfilled more than once. About 2600 years ago, Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and took many Jews as captives to Babylon. But many Jews later returned from Babylon. The Jews rebuilt Jerusalem but the city was destroyed about 1900 years ago by the Romans. The Romans killed more than 1 million Jews and forced many more into exile. The Jews did not have control of Jerusalem again until 1967 when the Jews recaptured the city during the Six Day War. "*Here is Zechariah 8:7-8*" This is what the Lord Almighty says: "I will save my people from the countries of the east and the west. I will bring them back to live in Jerusalem; they will be my people, and I will be faithful and righteous to them as their God." 9. Israel's deserts will become like the Garden of Eden Bible passage: Isaiah 51:3 Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC Fulfilled: Being fulfilled now In Isaiah 51:3, the prophet said that God will restore Israel and make it a paradise, like the garden of Eden. This foreshadows what is currently happening in Israel. The Jews have been irrigating, cultivating and reconditioning the land during much of the 1900s. Many of the country's swamps, which had been infested with malaria, have been converted into farmland. And water from the Sea of Galilee has been channeled through portions of the deserts, allowing some of the deserts to bloom. Much work remains, but parts of Israel are blooming again. Although it was described as a wasteland as recently as the late 1800s, Israel is now a food source for many countries. And at least 200 million of trees have been planted there during the past century. "*Here is Isaiah 51:3*" The Lord will surely comfort Zion and will look with compassion on all her ruins; he will make her deserts like Eden, her wastelands like the garden of the Lord. Joy and gladness will be found in her, thanksgiving and the sound of singing. 10. Isaiah foretold of the worldwide return of Jews to Israel. Bible passage: Isaiah 43:5-6 Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC Fulfilled: late 1900s In Isaiah 43:5-6, the prophet Isaiah said that the Jews would return to their homeland from the east, the west, the north and the south. Isaiah lived about 2700 years ago. At that time, the Assyrians had forced many Jews in the northern kingdom of Israel into exile. Those Jews were taken to other areas in the Middle East. Then, about 1900 years ago, the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem and killed and exiled hundreds of thousands of Jews. Since then, the Jews have been scattered to virtually every country in the world. But, during the past century, millions of Jews have returned to Israel, from the east, the west, the north and the south. *From the east:* Many Jews living in the Middle East moved to Israel by the early 1900s. *From the west:* During mid-1900s, hundreds of thousands of Jews living in the West (Europe and the United States) began moving to Israel. *From the north:* The former Soviet Union (Russia) is north of Israel. It refused to allow its Jewish residents to move to Israel. But, after years of pressure from other countries, Russia finally began to allow Jews to return to Israel during the 1980s. So far, hundreds of thousands of Russian Jews have moved to Israel. *From the south:* Ethiopia, which is south of Israel, also refused to allow its Jews to return to Israel. But, in 1985, Israel struck a deal with Ethiopia's communist government to allow the Jews of Ethiopia to move to Israel. On the weekend of May 25, 1991, 14,500 Ethiopian Jews were airlifted to Israel. Isaiah's prophecy was also correct in saying that the north (Russia) and the south (Ethiopia) would have to be persuaded to give up their Jews. Many countries pressured Russia for years before it began to allow its Jews to leave. And Ethiopia had to be paid a ransom to allow its Jews to leave. Isaiah's prophecy was also correct in saying that the Jews would return "from the ends of the earth," and Isaiah said that many centuries before the Jews had been scattered to the ends of the earth. During the past 100 years, Jews living as far east as China, as far west as the West Coast of the United States, as far north as Scandinavia, and as far south as South Africa, have moved to Israel. "*Here is Isaiah 43:5-6*" "Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth.... Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 aye your right paulas the mayans,eh was a loada shite Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,911 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Paulus lol I noticed the near death post I put has been skipped over so I'll explain.... When you die your pineall gland releases a fuckload of highly halluciogenic naturally occuring chemical DMT. Hence the trippy floating bollocks stories that some people come back with Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,911 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Frazled most of what you have put there is taken from the Torah (the old testement) hence not technically the bible so you're actually saying Christianity is a rip of and the Torah, Jewish faith is the correct one 1 Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 paulas the tablets that were found were localized flooding storys,tbe bible is a ww flood we already established this ages ago! World wide flood? Then how come the ancient Egyptians that had already starting building pyramids ever document it? The atmosphere only holds enough concievable water to cover an inch of the Earth, hardly enough to trouble people. Or did the earths crust split like some creationists say but didnt the bible say it rained for 40 days and nights? Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,786 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Paulus lol I noticed the near death post I put has been skipped over so I'll explain.... When you die your pineall gland releases a fuckload of highly halluciogenic naturally occuring chemical DMT. Hence the trippy floating bollocks stories that some people come back with Haha, and you managed to skip over ghostly experiences big lad...........or is the explanation that basically they are all tripping !! Lol Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,786 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 40 days and 40 nights.......sounds like Cumbria !! Lol Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 that last bit sounds like wales johnny 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,786 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 question for bh paulas wilf gnasher, do you beleive in prophesy? I believe that some events have a purpose, you can't always see it at the time, you just have to wait and see. It one of the reasons I don't drive myself mad thinking there must be a "reason" to every event, all is normally revealed in the end. Prophecy is nothing more than logic once you understand the nature of men........and rest assured the world will turn and men will play true to type. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 mushy you havent a clue do you,the torah is the old testament,the old an new is the bible. ignore it all you like lads you cant talk your way outa prophesy Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 prophesy is nothing more than logic wilf,lol explain the nature of men if you undetstand it! even tho it has fook all to do with prophesy! oxford dictonary definiton of prophesy! Say that (a specified thing) willhappen in the future :Jacques was prophesying abumper harvest [WITH CLAUSE]: the papers prophesied that he would resign after theweekend so explain to me that 75% of bible prophecy has been fufilled an 25% has yet to be fufilled, ignore it if you want it proves that the bible is accurate an truthful an god the father from bible is the one true god, but ignore an slag all you want,doesnt change the truth! Link to post Share on other sites
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