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And why the f**k do theists jump on the Dawkins bashing bandwagon, presenting Dawkins as the head honcho of atheism? :laugh:

 

It's as bad as us atheists presenting the Pope as the head of theism!

 

Dawkins (a chap I'd never heard of until about a year ago), is just an outspoken atheist. He's a very good scientist, but unfortunately his scientific work is too often outshone by his very aggressive views on creation.

 

Whos bashing him ?......i used him as an example of what im led to believe is a true aethiest i wasnt bashing the man .......sometimes i wonder if folk get a bit carried away with all this " us " and " them " stuff :blink:

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Why has he been mentioned so many times because hes all about destroying creation,christia. Faith,he hates god an everything about it.

 

Glad that not many people like him just another false prophet with his doctrines of devils

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It was a general comment. He's been mentioned f**k knows how many times.

 

Well i must of missed that i havent seen him mentioned at all...................feel free to trawl through 130 pages to prove me wrong though :laugh:

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It was a general comment. He's been mentioned f**k knows how many times.

Well i must of missed that i havent seen him mentioned at all...................feel free to trawl through 130 pages to prove me wrong though :laugh:

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LOL, no need to do any trawling, I have a reasonable memory. Wilf called him a self obsessed prick and fraz referred to him as the "top atheist". He's been mentioned plenty.

 

I'm not attacking anybodies views on him, that's their own business. It just makes me laugh how he's lorded about by theists as the king of atheism like everything he is the rest of us are.

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I just do not get this "us verses them"? A persons faith, or lack of, is between them and their conscience. I was taught very young you can discuss religion but never argue about it. As, along with sex and politics every one has their own preference.

 

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Who exactly is saying us and them? Where is this coming from? Some people believe some people don't, I'm quite content with that.

 

Why can't us atheists and them theists have an adult discussion about our beliefs?

Because some people cannot be objective? Just a thought.

 

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LOL, no need to do any trawling, I have a reasonable memory. Wilf called him a self obsessed prick

 

Well maybe you should of done some trawling that was a completely different topic.....so thats a point to my team :boogy:

 

I think Tiercel has it bang on this us v them stuff is ridiculous i dont see myself as a theist just a bloke discussing a topic of interest if a rethink causes a change in belief do i need to change sides....thats just daft.

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Hello paulas,truther said there primitive man lol so how did they have the technology,an i say they got it from lucifer an his fallen angels,who taught man all the tech,bita reading for ya

 

 

In the Book of Enoch

, the Watchers (Aramaic

. עִירִין, "iyrin"), are angels dispatched to Earth to watch over the humans. They soon begin to lust for human women and, at the prodding of their leader Samyaza

, defect en masse to illicitly instruct humanity and procreate among them. The offspring of these unions are the Nephilim

, savage giants who pillage the earth and endanger humanity. Samyaza and his associates further taught their human charges arts and technologies such as weaponry, cosmetics, mirrors, sorcery

, and other techniques that would otherwise be discovered gradually over time by humans, not foisted upon them all at once. Eventually God allows a Great Flood

to rid the earth of the Nephilim, but first sends Uriel

to warnNoah

so as not to eradicate the human race. The Watchers are bound "in the valleys of the Earth" until Judgment Day

. (Jude

verse 6 says that these fallen angels are kept "in everlasting chains under darkness" until Judgement Day.)

why would beings so advanced have need of things of vanity or weapons, seems to smack of an advanced form of man rather than fallen angels

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