delswal 3,819 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ok fraz i will look at a few of your mans seminars and will watch and listen with an open mind, if you do the same and look up " erich von daniken" and read what he has to say, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) i cant see how the fact that some scientists are christians proves or disproves anything. a couple of questions which the lists raise for me, please firstly, if i find a muslim who is a scientist, does that prove the existence of allah? or a buddhist? if not, then why are they different to christians, in terms of the evidence provided by somebodies personal belief? secondly, millions of christians believe in science, in fact to go one step further they see the absolute proof of science evry time they turn on a light, or get in a car or visit a doctor. so does the fact that many christians believe in sience therefore disprove the creation theory? frazdog, are these the christian scientists you mean? http://christianscience.com/what-is-christian-science thank you! Edited September 4, 2014 by beast Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 radio carbon dating 3Omins http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVuVYnHRuig Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ok fraz i will look at a few of your mans seminars and will watch and listen with an open mind, if you do the same and look up " erich von daniken" and read what he has to say, I have asked 3 times yet have been completely ignored. That tells me they do not wish to talk about the possibility that he may be right with his theory? If I am honest, out of all the theories, his would explain a lot of anomalies in both creationists and evolutionist theories. TC Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ok fraz i will look at a few of your mans seminars and will watch and listen with an open mind, if you do the same and look up " erich von daniken" and read what he has to say, I have asked 3 times yet have been completely ignored. That tells me they do not wish to talk about the possibility that he may be right with his theory? If I am honest, out of all the theories, his would explain a lot of anomalies in both creationists and evolutionist theories. TC Thats because its there way or the highway, their faith is that strong it won't let them contemplate anything else other than creationism. Its an admireable trait but I suppose thats what faith, they have an unwavering certainty. Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ok fraz i will look at a few of your mans seminars and will watch and listen with an open mind, if you do the same and look up " erich von daniken" and read what he has to say, I have asked 3 times yet have been completely ignored. That tells me they do not wish to talk about the possibility that he may be right with his theory? If I am honest, out of all the theories, his would explain a lot of anomalies in both creationists and evolutionist theories. TC Thats because its there way or the highway, their faith is that strong it won't let them contemplate anything else other than creationism. Its an admireable trait but I suppose thats what faith, they have an unwavering certainty. I can't find anything admirable about being brain washed. Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ok fraz i will look at a few of your mans seminars and will watch and listen with an open mind, if you do the same and look up " erich von daniken" and read what he has to say, I have asked 3 times yet have been completely ignored. That tells me they do not wish to talk about the possibility that he may be right with his theory? If I am honest, out of all the theories, his would explain a lot of anomalies in both creationists and evolutionist theories. TC Thats because its there way or the highway, their faith is that strong it won't let them contemplate anything else other than creationism. Its an admireable trait but I suppose thats what faith, they have an unwavering certainty. Read the book fraz, "was god an astronaut" if nothing else it is an interesting read, who knows it may give you a different out look lol Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ok fraz i will look at a few of your mans seminars and will watch and listen with an open mind, if you do the same and look up " erich von daniken" and read what he has to say, I have asked 3 times yet have been completely ignored. That tells me they do not wish to talk about the possibility that he may be right with his theory? If I am honest, out of all the theories, his would explain a lot of anomalies in both creationists and evolutionist theories. TC Thats because its there way or the highway, their faith is that strong it won't let them contemplate anything else other than creationism. Its an admireable trait but I suppose thats what faith, they have an unwavering certainty. I can't find anything admirable about being brain washed. I mean that they're steadfast in what they believe, not what they believe in is admirable. Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 The silence is deafening. TC Link to post Share on other sites
Kingkongsfinger 5 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ok fraz i will look at a few of your mans seminars and will watch and listen with an open mind, if you do the same and look up " erich von daniken" and read what he has to say, he wrote chariots of the god ? He believes that the gods were extraterrestrials and manipulated man? Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ah come on shepp, don't be unreasonable man, let me try something similar. . 1. Abandon your own individual beliefs, just go with the view of most. 2. Don't do your own research, just take others word for it. 3. Develop a false sense of security, after all, so many others believe it, they can't all be wrong? 4. Ridicule those in the minority because they're unpopular and oppose your own ideas. To participate in an active debate you can't just make a statement without expanding on it, you have to explain why, what, where and when. We simply believe in creationism because we believe the world and everything in it was created, it has a creator. We don't accept that we are just bald apes because we know that we are made in Gods own image, in His likeness, able to comprehend good and evil, aware of our own consciousness and sense of existence, past, present and future, born with a moral conscience, innately knowing right and wrong. . We have a foundation to say that rape, murder and abuse is wrong, because God said its was wrong, to defile and dishonour the life of another person is infringement of their will and violation of Gods will. . We must essentially remember that we are what we believe, if you think you're a bald ape, I think your the one with a mental issue. Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) This was posted back on the 12th of August and have still not had a reply. Posted by tiercel on 12 August 2014 - 09:40 PM in General Talk I reckon Erich von Däniken was right, we are all related to aliens. TC I have asked their opinion 3 times since that post and have yet to have a reply. TC Edited September 4, 2014 by tiercel Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 https://humanism.org.uk/2014/09/01/evolution-now-part-english-primary-national-curriculum/ Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 sorry tircel was busy , mate sorry but i came across Erik stuff few yrs back when i was researching big nono mate sorry but i went threw hrs of the stuff , its identical to the fallen angels story from the bible , he just switched angel with alien good documentary to watch its contreversial but i think its true. beast sorry mate stay away from that Christian science stuff its new age stuff its, Mary baker was big into occult nono watch this beast http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVuVYnHRuig Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 sorry wrong one Link to post Share on other sites
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