delswal 3,819 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 well you have no proof of what you beleive do you del Nor do you FACT ! you have a best selling book, fictional at its very best for what you place your faith in, the very book with the input of hundreds over thousands of years, no doubt you have heard of Chinese whispers fraz, well in my opinion thats what your faith is based on, but if it makes you happy stick with it. Now i am going to watch the rest of that link you put up the other night, see if your Dr. Kent Hovind can change my attitude Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 you on drugs that explains a lot so its just your wee narrow minded world then so you wont listen to scientific evidence No drugs here fraz, as you know that was my sarcastic dig at you and the demons you saw, sorry supposedly saw, but i will give you the benefit of the doubt lol Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 lol my notion is ……….i don't believe it until i see it, and refuse to be persuaded otherwise by anybody or any propaganda, or change my views on life because i was off my face one night and seen demons Not to get involved in you boys argument........but would it be rude to ask what it is you have seen that makes you believe in whatever you believe delswal ? Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 del im not talking.bible im talking creatioism which.theres plenty of scientific evidence 6ooo yrs aswell del lol an hovind has loads of semimars age of earth garden of Eden etc an loads of debates , there fun to watch evo guys squirm lol Link to post Share on other sites
steve66 3,449 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 hi delswal stop beating round bush an give your best evidence for whatever you beleive in? i give plenty on thread Ok frazdog, what do i believe in? I believe in what I can see, touch, taste and hear. I believe in no afterlife no heaven, unless of course before my times comes I see something to persuade me otherwise which very much doubt. To be honest i would be very grateful if anybody such as yourself or anybody else who follows your faith can prove to me without any doubt that, the history of the bible is true and your beliefs of the afterlife / heaven exists. Until then I shall remain sceptical. You cant touch , see , hear or taste your thoughts /minds eye but its there 1 Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 lol my notion is ……….i don't believe it until i see it, and refuse to be persuaded otherwise by anybody or any propaganda, or change my views on life because i was off my face one night and seen demons Not to get involved in you boys argument........but would it be rude to ask what it is you have seen that makes you believe in whatever you believe delswal ? Gnasher, the point i was trying to make was , i see god, or i hear god , same goes for old nick the devil himself if you believe in him, then i will believe, and what i believe gnasher is……..we are born , we live , we die , enjoy it while ya can, ya only get one shot…….unless proved wrong thats how I SEE it Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 del im not talking.bible im talking creatioism which.theres plenty of scientific evidence 6ooo yrs aswell del lol an hovind has loads of semimars age of earth garden of Eden etc an loads of debates , there fun to watch evo guys squirm lol Just watched him now, he's different lol Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 del im not talking.bible im talking creatioism which.theres plenty of scientific evidence 6ooo yrs aswell del lol an hovind has loads of semimars age of earth garden of Eden etc an loads of debates , there fun to watch evo guys squirm lol The evo guys are not squirming, that is how people look when listening to ridiculous bollocks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 so is nobody going to answer my questions? i'm just trying to understand both the points of view which are being made, and nobody can explaina couple of simple points? (with respect to field marshall ) Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) lol my notion is ……….i don't believe it until i see it, and refuse to be persuaded otherwise by anybody or any propaganda, or change my views on life because i was off my face one night and seen demons Not to get involved in you boys argument........but would it be rude to ask what it is you have seen that makes you believe in whatever you believe delswal ? Gnasher, the point i was trying to make was , i see god, or i hear god , same goes for old nick the devil himself if you believe in him, then i will believe, and what i believe gnasher is……..we are born , we live , we die , enjoy it while ya can, ya only get one shot…….unless proved wrong thats how I SEE it Fair enough delswal......i just thought you meant " see " as in evidence.......rather than " see " as in your viewpoint Edited September 4, 2014 by gnasher16 Link to post Share on other sites
Kingkongsfinger 5 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Well frazdog I've respect for you being into the bible, I think if a few more would look into it the place today would be a bit nicer, from people have distanced themselves form religion modern society has got worse, the youth of today are thinking they're gangsters talking in black rap language with no respect for their elders and have the manners of a wild boar Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Well frazdog I've respect for you being into the bible, I think if a few more would look into it the place today would be a bit nicer, from people have distanced themselves form religion modern society has got worse, the youth of today are thinking they're gangsters talking in black rap language with no respect for their elders and have the manners of a wild boar You don't need the bible to be respectful and courteous, thats why we have parents, hopefully they will bring us up to show respect and have values i know mine did…………..even though i kinda drifted at one stage …………ok maybe 2-3 stages. Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Debates like this, are like the Spring, you sow some seeds and wait to see what pops up in the summer. One thing you cannot do is knock a person for their beliefs, no matter what they are. You can try and educate them to your way of thinking, but calling names will get you no where. TC Edited September 4, 2014 by tiercel Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 hes diff alright del , if you watch his other seminars an debates there very informative an interesting. theres a short one him explaining how carbon dating is unreliable. Il try find it its very good watching by the way ive never seen a demon an dont want to lol sorry beast what was yor q again i agree kkf the further our soceity moves away from god its fooked look at America for eg Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Quick question...has anyone actually ever had God speak to them? Or communicate in some way? if so..what did God sound like? or what method of communication was used? genuine question and not a piss take. Link to post Share on other sites
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