Ggib 370 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 So if this debate was originally Creationism against Evolution am I allowed to ask, what was there before God? What created God as God seems to have come from nothing and created everything but there is only a record of God from 3400yrs ago. So to me it seems you could argue what came first, the chicken or the egg and what was before what laid the egg for evolution; and what came first man or God and what was before that created the God? thats easy, the egg came before the chicken, as chickens came from dinosaurs and they were laying eggs long before chickens were on the earth. theres 2 questions that stumps the evos and god squad what banged and who created god? Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,608 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I class my self as a Christian but I'm not working under the assumption that "God" is a single thing, I don't think we can even begin to fathom what "god" for want of a better word is.......the church can't, nobody can. However i can fathom that somebody so enlightened with a special connection to "god" was born and gave it a form and name that simple human being could understand. That, I can believe.....and I don't see why it's so hard for others to believe that it is possible ??? When we talk about "god" or faith or whatever, it's like trying to argue what a picture looks like when only a single pinprick of colour is visible to the human eye (or human mind in this instance) Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrianBorou 35 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 wilf mate if your a christian,you should read your bible an you will find out,who an what god is! Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yes get reading Wilf, do as your told man! Everything you need to know is in there, well according to the prophet Brian it is anyway, we would not want you having your own mind and thoughts on the subject, tut tut tut, that would never do 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,608 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) wilf mate if your a christian,you should read your bible an you will find out,who an what god is!Mate, I've been a catholic since the day I was brought into the daylight.......I have also seen a few things, have eyes, ears and a brain.If you have it figured, good for you......me, I don't and I think when we talk about spirituality we are talking about something the full extent of which we can not begin to fathom. What I do know is, god, faith, being a Christian does not exist once a week in palaces of wood & stone, nor is it in the hands of men in robes of gold with their collection boxes and condemnation........it's in the hearts of human beings, it's in the interconnected things of the world, it's in the smile of your children and the feeling you get when you do something good for someone else. That's as good a starting place as any in my book. JMHO Edited August 19, 2014 by WILF 6 Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 We may have had our differing opinions in the past my Christian friend, but that was very well put, if more people thought along those lines, the world would be a much better place 4 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,608 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Thank you matey ATB Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 You are welcome sir, credit where credit is due 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 wilf mate if your a christian,you should read your bible an you will find out,who an what god is! Ah so you know what God is, cool. The Big Bang Theory goes along the lines of nothing and then BOOOOOOM, loads of stuff, as has already been discussed. So my next question is God created everything, so where did God get all the stuff from? What was there before God started a bit of DIY? Now, why did he make so many galaxies, planets and asteroids etc or are they all failed plans and a few stone chippings? He created light or he said "Let there be light" and there was light but why didn't he say "Let there be light that isn't harmful to any of my children?" and why give some of us pigment to prevent such harm and then some of us no pigment so we get burned to fook and develop nasties through exposure to the light? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I'd like whoever wrote this to represent me in court... http://www.gotquestions.org/virgin-Mary.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrianBorou 35 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 god is eternal,hes outside time space an matter,einsteim observed that that time space an matter came into existense all at once,now bible says god spoke everything into existence,ok so where does the word universe come from,its latin for single spoken sentence,happy days make sense,now he made it so vast that it will never be figured out an for his glory,its amazing,now you say why didnt he stop harmful rays,well as I said back a few pages orignal creation thrre was a water vapour layer in atmosphere (bible tells us)which keep us safe from sun,an provided us with alot more oxygen,hence long life an very big reptiles,,dinosaurs,,now before the word dinosaur was created about 120 yrs ago an put in dictionary the common name was dragon,which is mentioned 180 times in bible,the flood rearanged the atmosphere to what it is today,jmo based on creation! Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,037 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 How do you know that your god is god,,,and not Allah ,,or any of the other religions gods? Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrianBorou 35 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 could you name the other gods tomo an il try an explain,allah was not god,desertbred will tell you this,allah says it himself in the koran,that he didnt know were he was going when he died,thats his own words,theres no salvation in islam Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 could you name the other gods tomo an il try an explain,allah was not god,desertbred will tell you this,allah says it himself in the koran,that he didnt know were he was going when he died,thats his own words,theres no salvation in islam you have done it now Baw Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 god is eternal,hes outside time space an matter,einsteim observed that that time space an matter came into existense all at once,now bible says god spoke everything into existence,ok so where does the word universe come from,its latin for single spoken sentence,happy days make sense,now he made it so vast that it will never be figured out an for his glory,its amazing,now you say why didnt he stop harmful rays,well as I said back a few pages orignal creation thrre was a water vapour layer in atmosphere (bible tells us)which keep us safe from sun,an provided us with alot more oxygen,hence long life an very big reptiles,,dinosaurs,,now before the word dinosaur was created about 120 yrs ago an put in dictionary the common name was dragon,which is mentioned 180 times in bible,the flood rearanged the atmosphere to what it is today,jmo based on creation! That's all very good but where did God come from? If God spoke then God must have come from somewhere, where was it? What created God? Link to post Share on other sites
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