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When I was a child I prayed to god and asked for a bike, but I knew god didn't work that way so I stole one and asked for forgiveness instead ?.

I will clearly state that my belief is that God does NOT exist. However, you can't prove that something doesn't exist, so if your telling me that I'm wrong, then I'm going to need some proof. Proof th

I've had a google and they reckon it's about 5000 pairs. What I can't understand if God was so powerful, powerful enough that he can make the world, he could do all these amazing things. He summons a

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ok paulas that graph didnt tell me who did the test?how they did test?when did they do it?you could have made that up,plus you date trees with annual rings right not carbon dating,ok your saying 4400 yrs is not long ok do you know anyone that age ok say your a hundred yrs old thats a good age,agree.that means ten lifetimes in one thousands yrs,44 life times in 4400,an you say thats not long ok mate,try an count to it see how long it takes you,an im not replying until you tell me what your theory evo.means only fair mate or are you same as harvey bh a bluffer

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Gnasher, I really don't get where you are going with this, it's like you think there needs to be a winner. There can never be a winner, science and faith are polar opposites. Science evidence based belief, faith by definition is belief in the absence of evidence. If God showed himself to us it would'nt require any faith to believe in him would it? You want to have an argument of logic on a topic that is illogical....

 

There's never going to be this "haha we win" moment in this argument. It's completely pointless. I only entered this thread in anger, so to speak, to talk about science. I'm not out to disprove god, it's impossible. God doesn't ever enter my thoughts because there is nothing at all other than peoples 'faith' as evidence of existence and as we have discussed faith is belief in the absence of evidence. I can't really make my logic for my beliefs any simpler, if I don't know how something works I son't just invent a supernatural cause, I work through steps of logic untill I have achieved a scientific answer based on observations and mathematics. If that takes time, then so be it........ That's the persuit of truth.

 

Its absolutely nothing to do with " winning "..........your entry into this thread was anger....me too.............i dont see reason for folk to ridicule/belittle another man because he has a different version of truth to them........truth that cannot be proven either way....................if it was clear black and white yes i get that.....but when they have the attitude of.... " you retarded c**t you dont believe the truth i cant prove ".........that irritates me,the whole contradiction thing.

 

Its no different to any other subject that cant be totally proven with facts in that people will believe whatever they want to believe,i just dont like the belittling high and mighty attitude that what is essentially a small minority of the world takes .

 

 

When I said in anger, I didn't mean emotionally I meant to take it seriously, you know as in the figure of speak "entered it in anger".

 

Where have I called anyone a retard? I've been called an idiot a number of times however!

 

As for the version of truth, what I am saying is completely backed by evidence! All the science BBB has come out with is completely flawed due to his missunderstanding of it. The 2nd law of Thermodynamics was described as "basically everything falling apart", the big bang was apparently when everything came from nothing, expansion is apparently all the planets moving away from each other which would f**k up our tides so must be impossible, Edwin Hubbles observations which proved expansion were apparently already witnessed in the bible. This is all bollocks Gnasher! All of it and you expect me to say "oh alright mate if that's how you see it what I study is complete bollock you're right" :blink:

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ok paulas that graph didnt tell me who did the test?how they did test?when did they do it?you could have made that up,plus you date trees with annual rings right not carbon dating,ok your saying 4400 yrs is not long ok do you know anyone that age ok say your a hundred yrs old thats a good age,agree.that means ten lifetimes in one thousands yrs,44 life times in 4400,an you say thats not long ok mate,try an count to it see how long it takes you,an im not replying until you tell me what your theory evo.means only fair mate or are you same as harvey bh a bluffer

also read that the book says the world is over 6000 years old?, god created man and all animals on the 6th day, originally as plant eaters and designed to live forever, this changed with Adams sin, so by the time of the flood dinosaurs and other animals were defiantly carnivores, with incisors and sharp claws with a will to kill and eat flesh, must of been a tad harey on that boat and what were they feeding them as they were all meat eaters remember ? also i could tell you our planet and in fact our solar system and galaxy is nothing more tham a mold growing under the foreskin of some other being and we could have the same discussion as were having now

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BBB, you keep asking me for my theory, it's the one you believe doesn't hold any credability, The Big Bang theory. I asked you if you were familiar with the work of Hubble and Einstein, the two people largely credited with turning scientific opinion towards it and you said you were. I'm not sure what more you want me to explain? Do I have to sit down and produce you a report on TBBT taking in to account Hubbles data, Einstein's General relitivity work and the predictions made by the theory that were later discovered? Do I also have to explain to you the limitations of this theory?

 

I mean, for someone that has been saying it's a load of shite I've just assumed you were familiar with it...

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bh youve lied in your posts saying your scienxe scholar yet you cant define evoloution ok mate not amswering any more qs until you define it for me,the above evidence is there if you search for it,no hiding no lieing like you mate,its all there to be viewed

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Born he wouldn't understand the first feckin equation written down. BBB you are a Joey mate but crack on and if when I die and find myself at the pearly gates and that Cnut at the door says my name ain't on the list I'll just say I'm BBB's mate lmao

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bh youve lied in your posts saying your scienxe scholar yet you cant define evoloution ok mate not amswering any more qs until you define it for me,the above evidence is there if you search for it,no hiding no lieing like you mate,its all there to be viewed

 

See above...

 

I'm a lier, this based on the same logic as you use to justify your god?

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BBB, you keep asking me for my theory, it's the one you believe doesn't hold any credability, The Big Bang theory. I asked you if you were familiar with the work of Hubble and Einstein, the two people largely credited with turning scientific opinion towards it and you said you were. I'm not sure what more you want me to explain? Do I have to sit down and produce you a report on TBBT taking in to account Hubbles data, Einstein's General relitivity work and the predictions made by the theory that were later discovered? Do I also have to explain to you the limitations of this theory?

 

I mean, for someone that has been saying it's a load of shite I've just assumed you were familiar with it...

I think it's time to give up mate. You arguing with someone who knows it actually can't be scientifically proved. A quick google I found someone who is willing to pay 10 thousand dollars to anyone who can prove it scientifically in a court of law knowing fine well there are too many loopholes for it to be rubbished.

I'm a catholic but I can't bring myself to believe in such a fairy tail.

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