oneredtrim 148 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Folk are scared of dieing Max and full of mongy giult...so to speak if every fucka's house in a run down city is now 100k, then what the f**k are them churches priced at to replicate, Lowry didnt paint matchstick men and the dogs cause every fucka was havin it off Link to post Share on other sites
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Roll on winter. Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 But if in the shit so to speak why pray for something you don't believe in the catholics have been brought up know that the last chance salon is available to them no matter how they've lived thier lives..by taking confession just prior to the out..you're told that before your debut appearance in the dark box with the non face showing adult stranger....it's too ill to think about to be honest Max Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,304 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 In regards to "what was there before the explosion" let's give theories such as multiverse, string, quantum, bubble, dimensional a chance to develop eh? Simply put we have no way of understanding why space is there yet, the matter is not as difficult to explain but as for a man in the sky give over ffs But lets get one thing straight, none of those hypothesis say "the universe came from nothing"! Drains my soul everytime I have to read that as a justification for creation. LOL Not a justification to explain that which cannot be created or destroyed lol Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 But if in the shit so to speak why pray for something you don't believe in when your times up all the praying in the world is not going to help the only reason people have faith is because there afraid 3 Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 So remind me again why it is i need to prove something with facts to you but you dont need to prove something with facts to me.......both knowing neither of which can be proven with facts ?......If a world reknowned genius says he cant be 100% sure God doesnt exist what makes you 100%.....What do you know that he doesnt ?....This " onus " being on the believer sounds a bit of a cop out to me......like this thing of " progress takes time " being a reason % of people worldwide still believe.....i mean come on how long does it take for man to get his finger out ?....after thousands of years of learning still only a relatively small % have uncovered this truth,which im sure you would agree is staggeringly slow progress for something so ridiculously absurd as believing in God ?? What don't I have to prove to you Gnasher? That God doesn't exist? How can I do that when theists can't define what God is? It's like asking you to find me something but not telling you what you're looking for. You get the problem? Nobody can be 100% sure of anything. Proof isn't ever 100% it's in fact simply high probability. I can't be sure their isn't a God, I can't be sure their isn't a tooth fairy, I can't be sure Nessy doesn't live in my toilet, but in the absence of utterly anything to suggest any of those are true why on Earth would I give any of them credability when they clearly have none? Does that mean they are false? No. Does it mean they are unlikely? Yes. I'm not an agnostic, because all the evidence points towards no god, so my belief is that there is no God. Onus of proof being on the person making the claim is not a cop out at all, the one making a claim has to define their position clearly so it can be scrutinised and either proved or disproved. That's pretty simple logic as otherwise people could make any claim at all and it would have to be accepted as true. Progress, what do you want from me, lol, Science is trying to unravel the entire Universe, it's not like solving a rubbix cube. There may always be questions and as long as there are questions there will be those that believe God is the answer to them. Thing is, God is the answer to less and less of those questions as the decades role on by. You think I'm arrogant to stand out from the masses..... I think I'm brave enough not to let my fear of the world I live in blind me from the truth. But we can be sure of one thing, we will all die, and there are three great mysteries in the life of man, death, birth and re-birth, and to the old people magic controlled them all, not Paul daniels pulling a rabbit from a hat magic, but the microcosm in touch with the macrocosm type magic,if you are scared of death, as most christians are, you are scared of living also, all the piety in the world wont save you from the end, at the end of the day, when the body is too old or sick to give us pleasure any more, we will all be gathered to our fathers, to spend your life in abject terror of what comes after, is to me a waste of your life, enjoy, be good, help the needy, and you will be fine, no dead man nailed to a piece of wood will ever alter your fate, or judge you, the forces of the universe will decide your fate. Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 You`re just a f****n, hippy Me and you will get on fine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 re birth il have a crack at hugh hefners life if nobody else wants it 1 Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I bet best part of folk who either don't believe in a Creator or sit on the fence who were in a real life or death violent dodgy situation or had a close friend or family member diognosed with a serious life threatening illness ' I bet a penny to a pound -90% of them if not more would be offering up prayers i must be the odd one then. been in them situations and god was the last thing on my mind, blamed myself, even looked for reasons to blame others but to ask a god for help that even believers agree will not help would be nothing more than desperation, if it was thought there was a chance albiet a remote one that a banana might save you, you would be looking for a banana out of desperation not belief, Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 God bless that banana, it's helped us through so much. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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Born Hunter 17,831 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hareydave I'm saying best part of non believers would start knocking prayers out if a close family member was diognosed with a serious life threatening illness or in a real life threatening situation with time to think. Why ? If they don't believe in anything pray to a god they don't think exists ? Well then they are pretty f***ing flimsy in their beliefs aren't they. Besides, it says more about the human condition than it does about the existance of God. I've believed for a long time that the God concept is a survival mechanism that allows people to keep their heads in desperate situations which has the effect of improving their chances of survival in those situations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 So would you pray to a creator you don't believe in Born if something serious was going on with a close family member ect ? depends if your in the will or not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrianBorou 35 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 mate dont be silly,christians are not afraid of life or death,you say birth an death are mystery dont think so mate,yor lost,or blind,do you know many people that rebirthed? Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hareydave I'm saying best part of non believers would start knocking prayers out if a close family member was diognosed with a serious life threatening illness or in a real life threatening situation with time to think. Why ? If they don't believe in anything pray to a god they don't think exists ? iv had many a novena for me they didn't work Link to post Share on other sites
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