God

[paulus 26]

another thought, as man was evolving he was always part of a group, hunter gatherers, farmers and all that, so humans naturally tend to feel safer in groups and the stronger the leader, the stronger the group, is religion used to supplement that need for belonging with the ultimate leader in charge (God) people always tend to look for comfort from others in bad times with religion and god they can do this even whilst alone.

[mushroom 13,198]

In regards to "what was there before the explosion" let's give theories such as multiverse, string, quantum, bubble, dimensional a chance to develop eh? Simply put we have no way of understanding why space is there yet, the matter is not as difficult to explain but as for a man in the sky give over ffs

[Born Hunter 17,798]

In regards to "what was there before the explosion" let's give theories such as multiverse, string, quantum, bubble, dimensional a chance to develop eh? Simply put we have no way of understanding why space is there yet, the matter is not as difficult to explain but as for a man in the sky give over ffs

 

But lets get one thing straight, none of those hypothesis say "the universe came from nothing"! Drains my soul everytime I have to read that as a justification for creation. LOL

[Tiercel 6,986]

There are so many religions in the world, yet each seems to think that theirs is the only true religion? How does that work then? Hindu, Sikhs, Muslims, Jainism, Buddhists, Christianity both C of E and Catholicism and that is barley scratching the surface of the religions out there all think that their religion is the right one. Their God is the only true God, funny thing is they all might be right.

 

If you look at God as good, then if you follow the teachings of your God, you are him.

 

TC

[paulus 26]

There are so many religions in the world, yet each seems to think that theirs is the only true religion? How does that work then? Hindu, Sikhs, Muslims, Jainism, Buddhists, Christianity both C of E and Catholicism and that is barley scratching the surface of the religions out there all think that their religion is the right one. Their God is the only true God, funny thing is they all might be right.

 

If you look at God as good, then if you follow the teachings of your God, you are him.

 

TC

that's sort of what i said earlier, if you have faith in yourself to do good then a god telling you how to do it is not needed or the religion that accompanies it.

[socks 32,253]

There will be people on this thread that would laugh in your face if you mentioned there might be life on other planets (aliens) but are happy to believe in a celestial being sat somewhere above space surrounded by angels :blink:

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[paulus 26]

the day the earth stood still

[Rake aboot 4,936]

There are so many religions in the world, yet each seems to think that theirs is the only true religion? How does that work then? Hindu, Sikhs, Muslims, Jainism, Buddhists, Christianity both C of E and Catholicism and that is barley scratching the surface of the religions out there all think that their religion is the right one. Their God is the only true God, funny thing is they all might be right.

 

If you look at God as good, then if you follow the teachings of your God, you are him.

 

TC

 

 

Buddhism is not a religion imo. It mearly states that whatever gods you believe in have no influence on you as you have no soul.

It is deemed a religion by some, but not by others.

[nans pat 2,575]

the devils my god.

[steve66 3,554]

There are so many religions in the world, yet each seems to think that theirs is the only true religion? How does that work then? Hindu, Sikhs, Muslims, Jainism, Buddhists, Christianity both C of E and Catholicism and that is barley scratching the surface of the religions out there all think that their religion is the right one. Their God is the only true God, funny thing is they all might be right.

 

If you look at God as good, then if you follow the teachings of your God, you are him.

 

TC

Budhists dont believe in god , there looking for enlightenment and follow there principles of life

[Born Hunter 17,798]

That link Gnash put up tells you that these top all knowing scientists are now thinking it never started with the Big Bang lol

 

 

That's not true at all. They absolutely believe the Universe we have now started with a Big Bang. What they now question are the implications of that, what was before the big bang. That lad is doing the same as every theist, essentially saying that because science doesn't have all the answers the answer must be God.

 

As for his interpretation of the Anthropic Principle, he's miles out! There's an incredible simple solution to it, but God is a convenient one...

Edited August 15, 2014 by Born Hunter

[Blackbriar 8,569]

I took the kids to a Buddhist pantomime last Xmas.

 

The audience kept shouting "He's beyond you !"

 

 

[gnasher16 30,280]

 

 

 

Paulus keeping things simple ( as your probably a bit brighter than me )......is that stance not a little bit ignorant ?......i cant give you one bit of physical evidence that proves God did anything but can you give me one bit of physical evidence that proves he didnt ?............we can all be positive towards our own argument but when that argument go,s against most of what the rest of the world believes does that not make you doubt anything at all or is it just that you are more intelligent than most ?......If on a worldwide scale 8 out of 10 people think the complete opposite to what you do,does that not make you doubt what you believe at all ?............Im not knocking folk like you i just find it strange how absolutely 100% sure you can be about a subject YOU are in a high minority about.

 

 

No, no one can, but then the onus of proof is on the believers not the non-believers as with any claim. You admit yourself there is no evidence to suggest God exists so then why do you believe? Would you not consider me a fool for believing in Fairys?

 

So does every belief need to be completely factually proven to carry weight ?......I believe Muhammad Ali was the greatest heavyweight in history......i cant prove that i can merely give you my reasoning of why,but the reality is MOST people worldwide think the same as me.......while im sure theres folk who think otherwise who also cant prove that Ali wasnt the greatest common sense,weight of numbers and personal opinion are enough to make me side with Ali.

 

Theres always folk who like to be different and make other claims but we,re not in a court of law its just a conversation of 2 opinions neither of which can be proven.

 

 

Well, in science, in the persuit of truth, yes. You think Ali was the greatest, by what measure, by what definition? Then you can compare the statistics and prove it or disprove it. If you are unwilling to define 'great' then it is nothing more than an unfounded personal opinion surely.

 

 

So remind me again why it is i need to prove something with facts to you but you dont need to prove something with facts to me.......both knowing neither of which can be proven with facts ?......If a world reknowned genius says he cant be 100% sure God doesnt exist what makes you 100%.....What do you know that he doesnt ?....This " onus " being on the believer sounds a bit of a cop out to me......like this thing of " progress takes time " being a reason % of people worldwide still believe.....i mean come on how long does it take for man to get his finger out ?....after thousands of years of learning still only a relatively small % have uncovered this truth,which im sure you would agree is staggeringly slow progress for something so ridiculously absurd as believing in God ??

[Ggib 370]

then why has when most people die and come back do they all say similar things? and how many believe in the paranormal?

[Born Hunter 17,798]

 

So remind me again why it is i need to prove something with facts to you but you dont need to prove something with facts to me.......both knowing neither of which can be proven with facts ?......If a world reknowned genius says he cant be 100% sure God doesnt exist what makes you 100%.....What do you know that he doesnt ?....This " onus " being on the believer sounds a bit of a cop out to me......like this thing of " progress takes time " being a reason % of people worldwide still believe.....i mean come on how long does it take for man to get his finger out ?....after thousands of years of learning still only a relatively small % have uncovered this truth,which im sure you would agree is staggeringly slow progress for something so ridiculously absurd as believing in God ??

 

 

What don't I have to prove to you Gnasher? That God doesn't exist? How can I do that when theists can't define what God is? It's like asking you to find me something but not telling you what you're looking for. You get the problem?

 

Nobody can be 100% sure of anything. Proof isn't ever 100% it's in fact simply high probability. I can't be sure their isn't a God, I can't be sure their isn't a tooth fairy, I can't be sure Nessy doesn't live in my toilet, but in the absence of utterly anything to suggest any of those are true why on Earth would I give any of them credability when they clearly have none? Does that mean they are false? No. Does it mean they are unlikely? Yes. I'm not an agnostic, because all the evidence points towards no god, so my belief is that there is no God.

 

Onus of proof being on the person making the claim is not a cop out at all, the one making a claim has to define their position clearly so it can be scrutinised and either proved or disproved. That's pretty simple logic as otherwise people could make any claim at all and it would have to be accepted as true.

 

Progress, what do you want from me, lol, Science is trying to unravel the entire Universe, it's not like solving a rubbix cube. There may always be questions and as long as there are questions there will be those that believe God is the answer to them. Thing is, God is the answer to less and less of those questions as the decades role on by. You think I'm arrogant to stand out from the masses..... I think I'm brave enough not to let my fear of the world I live in blind me from the truth.