God

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Paulus keeping things simple ( as your probably a bit brighter than me )......is that stance not a little bit ignorant ?......i cant give you one bit of physical evidence that proves God did anything but can you give me one bit of physical evidence that proves he didnt ?............we can all be positive towards our own argument but when that argument go,s against most of what the rest of the world believes does that not make you doubt anything at all or is it just that you are more intelligent than most ?......If on a worldwide scale 8 out of 10 people think the complete opposite to what you do,does that not make you doubt what you believe at all ?............Im not knocking folk like you i just find it strange how absolutely 100% sure you can be about a subject YOU are in a high minority about.

 

 

No, no one can, but then the onus of proof is on the believers not the non-believers as with any claim. You admit yourself there is no evidence to suggest God exists so then why do you believe? Would you not consider me a fool for believing in Fairys? You might take me seriously for a moment and ask me to prove it and when I say I can't ask me to define something unique about them so they can be searched for and when I say I have no idea what form they take or where they live or how they effect the world in a unique maner, will you still think "maybe this chap is on to something"? Or perhaps "this chap is f***ing lala, he has utterly no reason to believe they exist other than nobody can prove they don't".

 

As for % believe, well progress takes time. The one overiding reason for belief is the uncertainty in the big questions, as time moves forward, more light is shon on those big questions and we understand a little bit more. It's easy to understand that some undefined creator made it all, anyone can grasp that, it takes no understanding because it's a dead end in logic.

 

'God can't be described or defined so that's that, the end, full stop, stop thinking just have faith'

 

I wonder what that percentage is when you look at the demographic of the world of academia, PhD level Physicists for instance. I wonder how many of those that have taken the time to dedicate their lives to the advancement of knowledge and truth believe in a God and those that do what their reasons are....

Edited August 15, 2014 by Born Hunter

[paulus 26]

 

any religion any faith show me one physical bit of evidence that a god did anything, not something written by a man in the name of a god, or a link to a video of a man telling me about god, god is nothing more than a coping mechanism for the weak. those that fail to accept that there is nothing more than life and death, we strieve to distance ourselves from the nature that spawned all life in the hope that we are more special than any other creature on this planet, sorry to have to tell you, we live and die the same as all life,

 

Paulus keeping things simple ( as your probably a bit brighter than me )......is that stance not a little bit ignorant ?......i cant give you one bit of physical evidence that proves God did anything but can you give me one bit of physical evidence that proves he didnt ?............we can all be positive towards our own argument but when that argument go,s against most of what the rest of the world believes does that not make you doubt anything at all or is it just that you are more intelligent than most ?......If on a worldwide scale 8 out of 10 people think the complete opposite to what you do,does that not make you doubt what you believe at all ?............Im not knocking folk like you i just find it strange how absolutely 100% sure you can be about a subject YOU are in a high minority about.

 

before the bible people believed in other gods were they real or not it all goes back to nature and our understanding of it, good bad, light, dark, heaven and hell, they are all derived from what we see and what we fear in the world around us, that fear is reduced as our understanding and knowledge increases, religion (not faith as i explained that faith to me comes from self belief in doing the right thing) tries to hold knowledge and understanding, is this not what most of the conflicts and atrocities committed in the name of religion over the world on a daily basis are about, i would not knock anyone who believes in a god but i don't need to have a god to tell me how to live my life i already understand what is right and what is wrong,

[socks 32,253]

How can there be a god who overlooks and loves us all when there is systematic slaughter of religious denominations by believers of a different faith all in the name of religion ..... Religion was a powerful tool in past to control the masses with warnings of hellfire, brimstone and the terrible fates that would befall you if you sinned ... People were ignorant back then and far less educated then we are today so they readily believed what was being preached to them ... At this moment in time 31% of Americans are non religious and the number is growing ........

[noddy10 411]

load of shit all this god crap

[bobcullen79 1,495]

Anyone wanna come and join my cult, being an early founder, we can make it up as we go.

 

Shit, how much fun would that be.. And thats just what they thought.

[socks 32,253]

Socks do you think that's why Goverments works wide are letting Islam and Muslims spread and populate the world,

Because they can still be controlled thru their religion and Christians cannot ?

Why else would they let a religion spread around the globe that is causing so many wars ect ?

I doubt if there is a world wide conspiracy to indoctrinate the religion of Islam into every country as a means of controlling people ... look at all the Muslim countries in the world ... They are hardly law abiding places with no crime .........

[gnasher16 30,025]

Good watch Gnash

Reinstates exactly how iv thought about

Life ' Earth' the Universe ect from a young age

Something cannot come from Nothing

There has to be something to start with

Where does that something come from ?

The creator

Maybe evolution is a smokescreen by the great deciever ?

All I know is I'm no Bible Basher as some would call people with Faith

But I will keep the Faith even tho I know there has been Evil people who have used Religion for there own ends

And still are

And people still follow en mass like sheep

We all know true right from true wrong

As Iv said the Ten Commandments are all the laws we need to lead a happy fulfilling fair life

No all the bullshite statutes Goverments enslave us with

The same Goverments that wage war in the name of religion

God = Good

Devil = Evil

 

Both are potentially in every one of us

 

We were blessed with Free Will

 

Choose your own path .

 

Then live with the consequences

 

Eternally

 

Never mind any north south divide Max after all these years we,ve finally found something we agree on

[gnasher16 30,025]

Im certainly not about to get into science debates with scientists or folk who know a lot more than me about a subject......keeping things simple with common sense ive seen,heard and experienced a lot more that brings me down on the side of creation than evolution.....thats not to say i disregard evolution completely its a massive subject that i dont understand how anyone could be totally 100% sure on.......and maybe thats the beauty of faith/religion in that you take what you want from it......when people say things like God wouldnt let atrocities happen to me thats just too stupid to take seriously its like me saying a true God would stop me blowing my neighbors head off with a shotgun....nobody or nothing can stop that does that mean God never existed.....so for me i take what i want from both sides until further learning causes a rethink.....i doubt if the day will ever come where im 100% positive one way or the other so how some people can be i dont understand,particularly when the statistics worldwide are so high against them......continue to live and learn i guess.

[gnasher16 30,025]

 

Paulus keeping things simple ( as your probably a bit brighter than me )......is that stance not a little bit ignorant ?......i cant give you one bit of physical evidence that proves God did anything but can you give me one bit of physical evidence that proves he didnt ?............we can all be positive towards our own argument but when that argument go,s against most of what the rest of the world believes does that not make you doubt anything at all or is it just that you are more intelligent than most ?......If on a worldwide scale 8 out of 10 people think the complete opposite to what you do,does that not make you doubt what you believe at all ?............Im not knocking folk like you i just find it strange how absolutely 100% sure you can be about a subject YOU are in a high minority about.

 

 

No, no one can, but then the onus of proof is on the believers not the non-believers as with any claim. You admit yourself there is no evidence to suggest God exists so then why do you believe? Would you not consider me a fool for believing in Fairys?

 

So does every belief need to be completely factually proven to carry weight ?......I believe Muhammad Ali was the greatest heavyweight in history......i cant prove that i can merely give you my reasoning of why,but the reality is MOST people worldwide think the same as me.......while im sure theres folk who think otherwise who also cant prove that Ali wasnt the greatest common sense,weight of numbers and personal opinion are enough to make me side with Ali.

 

Theres always folk who like to be different and make other claims but we,re not in a court of law its just a conversation of 2 opinions neither of which can be proven.

[Onlyworkmatters 1,584]

A belief in a God does not mean you have to follow a religion, religion causes all the problems in the world not God

[Born Hunter 17,751]

 

 

Paulus keeping things simple ( as your probably a bit brighter than me )......is that stance not a little bit ignorant ?......i cant give you one bit of physical evidence that proves God did anything but can you give me one bit of physical evidence that proves he didnt ?............we can all be positive towards our own argument but when that argument go,s against most of what the rest of the world believes does that not make you doubt anything at all or is it just that you are more intelligent than most ?......If on a worldwide scale 8 out of 10 people think the complete opposite to what you do,does that not make you doubt what you believe at all ?............Im not knocking folk like you i just find it strange how absolutely 100% sure you can be about a subject YOU are in a high minority about.

 

 

No, no one can, but then the onus of proof is on the believers not the non-believers as with any claim. You admit yourself there is no evidence to suggest God exists so then why do you believe? Would you not consider me a fool for believing in Fairys?

 

So does every belief need to be completely factually proven to carry weight ?......I believe Muhammad Ali was the greatest heavyweight in history......i cant prove that i can merely give you my reasoning of why,but the reality is MOST people worldwide think the same as me.......while im sure theres folk who think otherwise who also cant prove that Ali wasnt the greatest common sense,weight of numbers and personal opinion are enough to make me side with Ali.

 

Theres always folk who like to be different and make other claims but we,re not in a court of law its just a conversation of 2 opinions neither of which can be proven.

 

 

Well, in science, in the persuit of truth, yes. You think Ali was the greatest, by what measure, by what definition? Then you can compare the statistics and prove it or disprove it. If you are unwilling to define 'great' then it is nothing more than an unfounded personal opinion surely.

[marshman 7,757]

Heaven goes by favour, if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in !

Mark twain .

[mushroom 12,870]

Gnasher you are wrong mate Cassius Clay was the greatest lol

[Hareydave 1,214]

these 12 apostles how come the only one has a second name is judas

[paulus 26]

not many if any would start a war or mutilate,commit genocide and all manor of other atrocities over who is or was the greatest fighter but think nothing of doing it in the name of who is the one true god or perhaps its done in the knowledge that nothing will happen if they break all gods commandments, but wouldn't that suggest that there is no god only men using the name of god for his own ends.