Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 blackmaggie , please speak too someone who cares as I couldn't care less, topic is a whole joke......... blackmaggie , please speak too someone who cares as I couldn't care less, topic is a whole joke.........I disagree it was started as a joke but iv enjoyed reading the different views an the bit banter Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,185 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 There is no god. Anyone who believes there is, is mentaly defective. I think the worldwide percentage of people who believe in " a god " is something like %.................thats around 5 billion mentally defective people on planet earth. but what percentage of that is muslim nash its seems now that being so tolerant of other faiths that are own beliefs are being forgot and take london for example how many faiths or different nationalities are taught there i just dont think are churches or are beliefs are used enough in schools etc but we only have are selves to blame regarding churches and how many use them theses days I dont really know mate i was simply making the point that by whatever name you call God more people believe in him than dont. Getting back to the God V Science thing,for anyone who has the inclination or can be bothered to listen,this young lad ive been listening to for a while now speaks on an easy to understand level ( for divs like me )......and seems to have a good knowledge on both sides of the coin......admittedly he,s a pastor so obviously comes down on the side of God but certainly gets you thinking either way......i have a lifelong friend who is a born again christian and the fact i kept asking him questions about his faith etc he told me to have a listen to some of this lads talks.....it gets interesting around 6 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsPK5VO5EXU 2 Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Ah I can't help but bite! You know the science v God thing really annoys me, they don't oppose! It's like someone saying to me "do you want beans or bacon? Um I'll have the both! Science comes from the Latin word "scientia" which means "knowledge" that's all, the definition of science is the "intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment" now keeping that definition in mind please follow my primitive examples. With science we can test what we have but not how we got it - It's a bit like this, using the scientific method you could work out the nutritional contents of an egg, structure and composition and everything else but you couldn't determine where the egg came from - of course we know where it came! Applying science to this world we live on can tell us a whole lot about it, but says it says nothing of where it comes from! Darwin's theory of evolution by definition is unscientific. . There are scientists for the existence of God and ones against, thats speaking of there personal beliefs, it has nothing to do with their title of being a scientist. . It's something we need to be crystal clear on. A bunch of guys denying the existence of God is the same to me as a bunch a fleas on a dogs back denying the dog is real, it doesn't matter what we think, for every bad reason you give against God, if you're honest, you can give a good one. . I'm sorry if repeat myself :-/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrianBorou 35 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 good post field marshall Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Cheers Big Brian. Gnash, Chris Hilken, first I've heard of him. . Certainly a very confident and very knowledgable young man, I listened to the majority of the video, certainly some great points made - I'll watch it in full tomorrow, I'll reach my own conclusion then. Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Anyhoo, I`m a busy man, and am not shirking anything here, I`ll reply to this when and if I get the chance,, oil doesn`t jump out theground itself you know. And Mr Zealot. You are deliberately trying to provoke me, something Christ would frown upon. Proverbs 18:6 A fool's lips walk into a fight, and his mouth invites a beating And I said DEFECTIVE if you care to read my posts properly, although you sound mental ! Oh and since you ask, I`m 47ish and have seen enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Ah I can't help but bite! You know the science v God thing really annoys me, they don't oppose! It's like someone saying to me "do you want beans or bacon? Um I'll have the both! Science comes from the Latin word "scientia" which means "knowledge" that's all, the definition of science is the "intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment" now keeping that definition in mind please follow my primitive examples. With science we can test what we have but not how we got it - It's a bit like this, using the scientific method you could work out the nutritional contents of an egg, structure and composition and everything else but you couldn't determine where the egg came from - of course we know where it came! Applying science to this world we live on can tell us a whole lot about it, but says it says nothing of where it comes from! Darwin's theory of evolution by definition is unscientific. . There are scientists for the existence of God and ones against, thats speaking of there personal beliefs, it has nothing to do with their title of being a scientist. . It's something we need to be crystal clear on. A bunch of guys denying the existence of God is the same to me as a bunch a fleas on a dogs back denying the dog is real, it doesn't matter what we think, for every bad reason you give against God, if you're honest, you can give a good one. . I'm sorry if repeat myself :-/ I`m honest and I can`t come up with those good reasons for there being a god that you mention. It`s only benifit I see is when older people use it as a crutch to aid in there denial of death. Something they usualy renounce at the last minute. Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 I just see religion as a way of controlling people. It amazes me how many people believe it all. I know what's right and wrong with my morals based on how I was brought up and life experiences. Religion years ago was around when people wasnt even educated. We used to have witch trials ffs and believe the earth was flat. I can't understand how religion hasn't moved on. Lets just hope when we get onto another planet we don't bring religion with us. Some how though I don't think people of power will allow that. Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrianBorou 35 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 mate bible readers always knew the earth was circle it tells you few times,an another planet,mate you must be from another planet,thats pure fantasy,total recall style I would advise bit of research a bit of truth will help Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrianBorou 35 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 rake your way off mate your in denial,so your 50 then,so worm food shortly,by your own account,not really good end is it mate Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 rake your way off mate your in denial,so your 50 then,so worm food shortly,by your own account,not really good end is it mate lol worm food im even close. think il just get myself cremated an give the fish there last bite in my favourite river Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 any religion any faith show me one physical bit of evidence that a god did anything, not something written by a man in the name of a god, or a link to a video of a man telling me about god, god is nothing more than a coping mechanism for the weak. those that fail to accept that there is nothing more than life and death, we strieve to distance ourselves from the nature that spawned all life in the hope that we are more special than any other creature on this planet, sorry to have to tell you, we live and die the same as all life, Link to post Share on other sites
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 any religion any faith show me one physical bit of evidence that a god did anything, not something written by a man in the name of a god, or a link to a video of a man telling me about god, god is nothing more than a coping mechanism for the weak. those that fail to accept that there is nothing more than life and death, we strieve to distance ourselves from the nature that spawned all life in the hope that we are more special than any other creature on this planet, sorry to have to tell you, we live and die the same as all life, Amen to that! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 rake your way off mate your in denial,so your 50 then,so worm food shortly,by your own account,not really good end is it mate lol worm food im even close. think il just get myself cremated an give the fish there last bite in my favourite river We done that to my mates dad, who was also my friend. Put him in the local moat, where he happened to have his biggest carp in his life shortly before he died of cancer. R.I.P Boris. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 young swallows migrate from here to north Africa each autumn despite never having done the journey before, they do this with what's only contained in their bodies using the earth's magnetic fields and imprinted landmarks to navigate, is this a miracle or the will of some god or other, no its nature at its finest, all life is a mixture of carbon,electricity and chemical reactions from the smallest to the biggest, as i have said i do not believe in a god as a physical being or an all judging creature that is mans own slant on it,perpetrated to exploit the masses. i can understand those that worship the seasons to an extent but again is that through ignorance or understanding, as we have evolved and shaken off our link with the natural world we have replaced it with something called religion, but as it is man made it has all the faults of man, Link to post Share on other sites
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