.22Lr Or .17Hmr

[shootinforfood 18]

I already have SGC and now looking to apply for FAC.

 

I shoot a large farm that is cleared for .243, most of the other shooters with rifles use .223 and one uses .22LR but I doubt I will be granted for a centre fire at my first application so need to decide what rimfire would be best for me.

 

I understand that the .17HMR has better range, but is also a lot louder due to the super sonic rounds, where as the .22LR is quieter but requires a closer range.

 

will mostly be shooting foxes, but also rabbits when they get a bit bigger and are worth eating.

 

currently shooting an escort semi auto using AAA on foxes and 28g no5 on rabbits

 

I already have a scope, not too worried about a moderator as no one else there uses one so really just need to decide what calibre I want.

 

any suggestions? my mind says go for the HMR because of the foxes until I can variate to a centre fire, but I have been told that any rabbit inside 100yds wont be worth eating after being hit with a HMR round

[shropshire dan 467]

Headshot rabbits with a hmr are easily still edible. Ive just got rid of my hmr due to getting a .22-250 and I use .22lr for rabbit .22-250 for fox. I say if your targeting fox and cant get a CF get a hmr but if you can get a CF dont bother with the hmr. I only gained 30 yards with the hmr as you can with practice take rabbits at 120 yards with a .22 sub and can use much higher velocity for fox which are only 50-60 ftlb less than a hmr but with a heavier bullet.

[slipper 116]

I remember saying that to someone else a while ago lol! Only joking, sound advice there, how did you get on yesterday dan?

[Cedric 132]

The hmr does not make a mess of rabbits - even a chest shot leaves the back in eatable condition ( maybe not if you're wanting to sell them). Head shots are reliable to 100 yards no problem.

 

You will be lucky to get .22lr or .17hmr passed for foxes if you tell your FEO that's what you intend.

 

I have two .22lr's and a hmr, which I'm changing for a .22 Hornet for that very reason. Recently I've been practising with the .22 subs and can quite confidently hit head shots at 90 - 100 yards in good conditions. The only real drawback of the .22lr over the hmr is the ricochet issue in certain locations.

[Cedric 132]

PS. Get a moderator !! Makes everything much pleasanter plus you will still be able to hear your phone ring afterwards !

[redlion 1]

When I applied for my FAC I originally only wanted a air rifle slot but my FEO encouraged me to apply for rimfire too. In the end I opted for air rifle, .22LR and .17HMR and was granted the lot without any problems. I also know of several people that have applied for and been given variations for additional rimfire slots for use with night vision sights. Not sure where you stand legally using rimfire on fox as I was led to believe its a CF only quarry. Having said that I'm sure a lot of foxes are taken with rimfire, just a matter of range and shot placement.

Edited August 10, 2014 by redlion

[shropshire dan 467]

I remember saying that to someone else a while ago lol! Only joking, sound advice there, how did you get on yesterday dan?

True matey.

 

Seen 4 foxes 1 at about 100yards but decided against the shot due to an uncertain backstop/livestock. Defo would have bagged him though 2 out of my comfort zone due to lack of experience with this setup and another at about 160ish yards but couldn't get a suitable rest as the grass was a little long for the bipod.

 

Oh well a little more practice needed but they'll be back another night ;-)

[slipper 116]

Never mind, I had one last night a big cub shot it with the 22 called it right up to the side of the 4x4 head shot at 15 yards!

[doie1 22]

I already have SGC and now looking to apply for FAC.

 

I shoot a large farm that is cleared for .243, most of the other shooters with rifles use .223 and one uses .22LR but I doubt I will be granted for a centre fire at my first application so need to decide what rimfire would be best for me.

 

I understand that the .17HMR has better range, but is also a lot louder due to the super sonic rounds, where as the .22LR is quieter but requires a closer range.

 

will mostly be shooting foxes, but also rabbits when they get a bit bigger and are worth eating.

 

currently shooting an escort semi auto using AAA on foxes and 28g no5 on rabbits

 

I already have a scope, not too worried about a moderator as no one else there uses one so really just need to decide what calibre I want.

 

any suggestions? my mind says go for the HMR because of the foxes until I can variate to a centre fire, but I have been told that any rabbit inside 100yds wont be worth eating after being hit with a HMR round

 

 

 

I was kind of in the same boat as you mate, had my SGC for ages and wanted to get a rifle, I applied for a HMR and a 223 nod got both with the condition I went out with a mentor with the 223. So if you really want a CF then go for it.

 

I went for the HMR in the end thought it was too much hassle having a mentor and the HMR was cleared for fox too.

[celticrusader 78]

Well I gotta admit the noise only comes into effect when up close with the hmr and then its rarely scareing those bunnies away, have to agree with Cedric...regardless what the others use I would definatly have a moderator on both otherwise your being stupid tbh mate, what would be the point having a 22lr especially since they would both sound like centrefires otherwise.

I shoot more with my hmr and if you go for shoulder, neck and head there's plenty left to eat ..doesn't do as much damage as most say.

Edited August 10, 2014 by celticrusader

[Coypu Hunter 486]

Never mind, I had one last night a big cub shot it with the 22 called it right up to the side of the 4x4 head shot at 15 yards!

 

What did you pick the remains up with? A shovel?

[SportingShooter 0]

I already have SGC and now looking to apply for FAC.

 

I shoot a large farm that is cleared for .243, most of the other shooters with rifles use .223 and one uses .22LR but I doubt I will be granted for a centre fire at my first application so need to decide what rimfire would be best for me.

 

I understand that the .17HMR has better range, but is also a lot louder due to the super sonic rounds, where as the .22LR is quieter but requires a closer range.

 

will mostly be shooting foxes, but also rabbits when they get a bit bigger and are worth eating.

 

currently shooting an escort semi auto using AAA on foxes and 28g no5 on rabbits

 

I already have a scope, not too worried about a moderator as no one else there uses one so really just need to decide what calibre I want.

 

any suggestions? my mind says go for the HMR because of the foxes until I can variate to a centre fire, but I have been told that any rabbit inside 100yds wont be worth eating after being hit with a HMR round

 

You have a "good reason" for a centrefire so apply for one, it's as simple as that.

 

I don't hold with the myth that you wont be granted a centrefire on first application, it is a rumour and nothing more.

 

A centrefire and a .22LR would be ideal by the sounds of things.

[slipper 116]

Its only a 22 mate did the bizo though I was out shooting rabbits so only had the 22lr with me and thought I would try callit it in funny how some play ball was only a cub though I suppose

[abarrett 462]

 

I already have SGC and now looking to apply for FAC.

 

I shoot a large farm that is cleared for .243, most of the other shooters with rifles use .223 and one uses .22LR but I doubt I will be granted for a centre fire at my first application so need to decide what rimfire would be best for me.

 

I understand that the .17HMR has better range, but is also a lot louder due to the super sonic rounds, where as the .22LR is quieter but requires a closer range.

 

will mostly be shooting foxes, but also rabbits when they get a bit bigger and are worth eating.

 

currently shooting an escort semi auto using AAA on foxes and 28g no5 on rabbits

 

I already have a scope, not too worried about a moderator as no one else there uses one so really just need to decide what calibre I want.

 

any suggestions? my mind says go for the HMR because of the foxes until I can variate to a centre fire, but I have been told that any rabbit inside 100yds wont be worth eating after being hit with a HMR round

 

You have a "good reason" for a centrefire so apply for one, it's as simple as that.

 

I don't hold with the myth that you wont be granted a centrefire on first application, it is a rumour and nothing more.

 

A centrefire and a .22LR would be ideal by the sounds of things.

Mate of mine put in for his fac

He put on it

Fac air rifle

22lr

17hmr

223

Got granted no problem

[shropshire dan 467]

I couldnt get a CF on first application as i didnt have a mentor i was granted .22lr and .17hmr and now 8 months later have .22lr and .22-250 on a open ticket and that's all i really need